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[–] thanks_shakey_snake@lemmy.ca 19 points 3 months ago (6 children)

If you've bought or built a new PC within the last eight or so years, then it'll almost certainly have a TPM chip, but the older the hardware, the less likely it'll be present or the right version.

That meant when Windows 11 appeared with its TPM 2.0 requirement, an enormous swathe of perfectly viable PCs were left without the chance to upgrade to the latest version of Windows

Linux people: Linux would never do you dirty like this.

Mac people: Whoa, they let you use EIGHT YEAR OLD hardware? Lucky!

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Also Linux: running in 13 year old apple hardware.

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I have a 16 year old ThinkPad running an NVR server for 4 cameras. It's not happy about it but it works >_<

[–] KomfortablesKissen@discuss.tchncs.de 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Nice, the oldest I have is a netbook from 2008. It still works as a mpd server

[–] nik282000@lemmy.ca 0 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Sweet, good application for it.

(I have been looking for a way to selfhost my music collection. Thanks!)

Glad I could help :)

Another way can be module-native-protocol-tcp, which is a module for pulseaudio to accept TCP traffic. I haven't done that myself, but I've seen it working. Maybe it can work even on older machines. The arch wiki has a nice section about it.

[–] hightrix@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My 2012 MBP says otherwise. This thing is a rock and will not stop!

[–] TwinTusks@bitforged.space 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I highly doubt Mac provides OS update on your 2012 MBP, since I have a 2015 MBP that stopped at El Capitan.

[–] DJDarren@thelemmy.club 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Opencore Legacy Patcher is your friend. My old 2015 MBP ran Sonoma perfectly. My 2014 mini runs it perfectly.

[–] TwinTusks@bitforged.space 2 points 3 months ago

Great, maybe later. I do not like the looks of Sonoma.

[–] BCsven@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 months ago

My HP Zbook didn't pass the Windows check, it said TPM is wrong version. i ran the HP firmware update to bring TPM chip from 1.2 to 2.0 version. Reran the Windows checker, it now failed it on the CPU (where as previously the CPU was approved). So they are telling me to keep running OpenSUSE :)

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But over in the phone world:

Android phone :: two years old? We don't do updates any more. Buy a new phone.

Google/Samsung :: if you buy our expensive range, we can do five years of updates. Isn't that great!

iPhone SE 1st gen :: still going strong with updates after 8 years.

[–] meliante@lemmy.world 5 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Google and Samsung do 7 years now. My OG SE hasn't received an update in a while.

[–] milicent_bystandr@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Has it not? I saw one come a week or so ago.

[–] meliante@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

I'll check mine🙂

[–] lengau@midwest.social 2 points 3 months ago

Seriously. I'm running the same version of the same distro on machines manufactured over a decade apart. And even if my distro dropped support for my older machine in its next version, I have 10 years to find a replacement.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 0 points 3 months ago

Macs run until you can’t find an installable browser.