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I got a new job. whatsapp group (20 people) is migrating to signal because I don't use it. (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 months ago by GravitySpoiled@lemmy.ml to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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I understand that it may be problematic sometimes but this was very smooth. I didn't even say anything.

A: what's your number for the whatsapp group Me: I don't have whatsapp because of facebook. B: ok, we have to use signal then A: ok

And that was it. Life can be very easy sometimes

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[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev -2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

XMPP is great but it's dead.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 10 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

It is as dead as we want. There's no reason to reinvent the wheel, probably the only thing that XMPP lacks is a bunch of money into a very good, cross-platform (but native) client like Telegram has that actually works 100% of the time and a bunch of large scale public servers to handle regular users who don't want to host their own. Also... easy registrations and setup on said client.

For a regular user and most privacy aware people, they just don't care if the protocol is Matrix, Signal or XMPP - they just want a good end user experience and a solid thing, that's what XMPP lacks today and it's all client side.

Bottom line is: XMPP as a protocol is great, lacks someone with vision and money to drive it into mass adoption.

[–] AsudoxDev@programming.dev 3 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I'm pretty sure an encrypted chat platform is possible with ActivityPub. In fact, sup is an instant messenger that will be encrypted and federated using the ActivityPub protocol. It's being made by dansup, the creator of PixelFed.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 4 points 3 months ago

Why reinvent the wheel, tweak a protocol, implement a ton of software when you can just use the tested, tried and true XMPP?

[–] Churbleyimyam@lemm.ee 3 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Does XMPP support voice/video calls?

[–] curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Yes, Jingle.

https://xmpp.org/about/technology-overview/#jingle

[–] SLfgb@feddit.nl 3 points 3 months ago

Yes, very well.

[–] TCB13@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

Yes…