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I've been seeing more often (and others have posted the same) that some of the elements of "Reddit etiquette" seem to be taking over here. Luckily I can still find discussion comments but it seems the jokes and general "downvote because I disagree" are slowly taking over.

So the question becomes is it the size or the functionality of the site? The people or popularity? What's your thoughts?

edit: should I change it to Lemmy-hivemind? Exhibit A: the amount of downvotes without a single explanation (guessing it's anything to do with Reddit being talked about).

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[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 4 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I think the difference is when you have a small group everyone sort of considers themselves co-custodians of a space—lifting each other up and helping people integrate. But get enough people and it starts getting exhausting constantly trying to enforce norms against an ever growing community of people who don't understand or respect them. It's like social enshittification.

[–] MelonYellow@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

Too much growth too fast for sure! Much harder for Lemmy to create its own culture and maintain it. Much harder to discourage toxicity. Notice how healthy communities are often smaller.

Sucks for niche communities but they'll get slowly spun up over time, and in the meantime they can be found in other places including Reddit. I don't personally need everything to be a one-stop shop.

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I think we need to consider the norms Lemmites enforce. From what I've experienced: it's often nitpicks ("I think one thing you said is wrong"), or mild insults when an opinion is outside our slightly-left-of-centre POV. Disagreement is rarely friendly, gentle, or constructive.

From what I've seen, we're great at getting the big stuff right - people react quickly against child porn or overt racism/insults. But we reply with the same anger if someone has an opinion different from ours.

I have a better time in small Reddit communities because people have more shared interests. Here our prime commonality is that we like FOSS and dislike Reddit.

[–] Hawke@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

But we reply with the same anger if someone has an opinion different from ours.

Hey fuck you! That’s total bullshit and you know it!!

[–] sbv@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Not a single comma. Tch tch tch.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

I'm old enough to remember the start of eternal September. It hasn't stopped yet.

[–] MagicShel@programming.dev 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't recall when I first started using the internet. Late 80's or very early 90's. No WWW back then. It was all IRC and gopher and newsgroups and other things I don't remember. I lived near MSU, so I could dial in for free because it was a local call.

And then once you got in, it was hard to find anything to actually do. It kinda felt like exploring Mars. But eventually I found things. Very exclusive club and very good times that I miss. No advertisements. No one trying to make a sale.

[–] Zagorath@aussie.zone 1 points 6 months ago

It kinda felt like exploring Mars. But eventually I found things

Even the world wide web felt like that until shockingly recently. I remember circa 2005 just typing in random words .com and seeing what you'd find, or discovering a cool new website by word of mouth at school.

I remember vising pig.com and discovering a delightful page consisting of nothing more than a giant picture of a pig and the text "this domain is for sale" that lasted years. These days it's probably one of those shitty for sale landing pages.