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Can someone explain why so many people here are FOR blocking Threads.net on a server level? (sh.itjust.works)

submitted 3 months ago by Arcane2077@sh.itjust.works to c/main@sh.itjust.works

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I might not be understanding something about the fediverse, but isn't this like if you couldn't send or receive email from a friend because you use gmail Google decided to block @icloud domains?

Like, you're not forced to follow or interact with it, and are free to block it if you can think of a reason to, I just don't see why such an open platform used to limit users in this way

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[–] TheOneCurly@lemm.ee 91 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The concept as I understand it is that Threads has the sheer volume of content to completely drown out the existing Fedi content if it fully opens the floodgates. If that occurs and say 90% of content becomes Threads and then they start making Threads only extensions to Activity Pub, servers will have to start patching those in and the Activity Pub project is defacto owned by Meta.

People also have issues with the Meta content moderation and the population on Threads, but as you noted that's fixable on an individual and community level. The existential threat to the future of the Fediverse is why servers should defederate. Meta can't and shouldn't be trusted with any amount of power over this community project.

[–] placatedmayhem@lemmy.world 44 points 3 months ago (1 children)

This is called "Embrace, Extend, Extinguish". Microsoft coined the term internally for their responses to open standards in the 90's and 00's.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend,_and_extinguish

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Lemmy World is doing a pretty good job of that themselves. I don't hate them, but I don't understand why.

[–] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

No, they aren't. They aren't by any means.

Maybe there are more posts from that instance, but there is no one trying to then extend the protocol with the objective of requesting special features and then killing off the protocol.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works -3 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They haven't gone that far yet, but they're on their way. I didn't think they were like that in the beginning either, but they certainly were advertising themselves to be the best place to go in the beginning for some unknown reason. They now try and take over every community and/or shut down smaller ones. An admin was curating things, which isn't a great sign. Granted, it was just an admin, but I'm not welcome there anymore. They act like reddit, so I think of them like reddit. That's just my take, you're totally welcome to disagree, and you obviously do. I didn't see the value in spreading out in the fediverse, now I do.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

didn’t see the value in spreading out in the fediverse, now I do.

Welcome to the other instances!

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Ty, I really like SJW, they're pretty great here.

[–] Blaze@sopuli.xyz 2 points 3 months ago

It's a nice one