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The over 900-page document, commissioned by the people expected to run another Trump White House, is a laundry list of the far-right's most politically toxic ideas, from banning abortion nationwide to mass firing federal officials who believe in protecting public health and safety. One would think that Trump and his allies would try to keep their sinister plans out of public view. Instead, Team Trump published their fascistic blueprint on a website for anyone to read,. They even proudly display the menacing "Project 2025" label on the front page.

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On Sunday, actress Taraji P. Henson took a break during the BET Awards, which she was hosting, to speak out about Project 2025. "The Project 2025 plan is not a game. Look it up!" she told viewers. "I’m talking to all the mad people that don’t want to vote. You’re going to be mad about a lot of things if you don’t vote."

The clip went viral, amplified by other celebrities like Mark Ruffalo. So the MAGA forces swung into action on social media, accusing Henson and Ruffalo and other progressives of making it all up. "Is Project 2025 in the room with you?" a blue-checked user sneered under Ruffalo's tweet. These efforts at gaslighting people run against a real problem, however: The drafters of Project 2025 seek to promote their authoritarian playbook. Thus, a simple Google search generates a slew of explainers from various news organizations, with even more coming out rapidly, as a response to the rising number of people asking, "What's Project 2025?"

"We received a flood of reader inquiries asking if Project 2025 was a real effort," the fact-checking team at Snopes wrote in their lengthy explainer published Tuesday. Google Trends confirms that the number of searches for "project 2025" has grown dramatically in recent days.

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[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 64 points 4 months ago (3 children)

The backfiring isn't because Republicans are upset about it. It's because other people are finding out about it and are rightly horrified. It may (hopefully) convince more people to vote that might have stayed home otherwise.

[–] scops@reddthat.com 27 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Exactly. It's all of the quiet parts, but out loud, typed out, indexed, and easily accessible.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm not getting my hopes up.

Republicans are openly planning for genocide, sure, but the Democrats are actively aiding and abetting genocide right now.

They will not suddenly find their principles and start treating the Reublican party like the existential threat they are. They will not take any action which might ensure Trump loses the election. They are more afraid of losing their campaign financiers than the campaign.

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Yeah Dems are cancelling abortion, planning massive deportations, taking away tans kids healthcare. Shut the fuck up Russian.

[–] knightly@pawb.social 0 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Biden could issue an executive order requiring hospitals in red states to perform abortions or else lose their medicare funding, but won't.

Biden could reverse his position on deportations, instead he issued an executive order to reject all asylum requests by undocumented immigrants.

Biden's attempt to apply Title IX to trans folks like myself has been nice, but it's not nearly enough to make me forget what he's spending my tax dollars on.

Biden could start doing good and incredibly popular things like ending our support for genocide, but that would piss off AIPAC and those lobbyists opinions' mean more than those of voters.

You can tell yourself that I'm a russian bot if that makes you feel better. I hope the comfort of dismissing all criticism as foreign influence is worth the consequences of repeating all the mistakes made in 2016.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 19 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

Yeah, non-conservatives (mainly liberals) really need to get it into their heads that every single conservative either actively wants an authoritarian state that murders "woke" people and minorities, or if they're not outright for it they think that surely the leopards won't eat their face because they're on the right side.

Ultimately even a "moderate" conservative has fewer disagreements with literal neo-Nazis (oh wait, except the Nazis are leftists according to reich-wingers) than they do with anybody left of the fucking Strasserites. Even if a conservative is not calling for the extermination of {CURRENT_HATED_MINORITY}, they're still more than happy to support parties that either have fascist members or collaborate with fascists.

This is on clear display here in Europe; the "moderate" conservatives are lining up to kiss Meloni's ass, and they don't mind at all that FdI (Meloni's party) is a literal offshoot of the original Fascist Party and a huge percentage of their MPs and "lay members" have voiced their love of Mussolini.

[–] TheLowestStone@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The whole "Nazis are leftists" thing really blows my mind but I've seen people saying it unironically.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's because in their mind Nazi = bad guy.

They cannot see themselves as "bad guys," so the association is immediately dismissed without further consideration. The leftists are the bad guys, so obviously Nazi maps onto those people.

But it's not really about truth, it's about "winning" the argument.

[–] dactylotheca@suppo.fi 3 points 4 months ago

Also National Socialism means they were socialists, much like the Democratic People's Republic of Korea is a democratic republic.

It just shows a total lack of understanding of what the NSDAP platform was. Nazi Germany was a corporatist (in the political science sense) and authoritarian capitalist country, and they eg. specifically privatized a lot of functions that had been public before, absolutely loathed the idea of welfare or supporting "unworthy" people in any way, and were quite enthusiastically supported by business interests starting from their early years. Socialism, ie. social ownership of the means of production and strong public services, was about as opposite as can be to what the economics of fascism are, not to mention the social side. Fascists literally murdered sick or infirm people rather than support them, because weakness has to be weeded out of society.

Like this contemporary caricature puts it, the NSDAP – the National Socialist German Workers' Party – presented itself as the "Socialist Workers' Party" when appealing to workers, and as the "National German Party" when appealing to "financially solvent circles".

All of this is just completely beyond many conservatives' capability to internalize – understanding any of that would mean they'd have to think some very uncomfortable thoughts about their own ideology, and the vast majority of them are fundamentally incapable of that sort of self-reflection.

[–] Zombiepirate@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago

I really think The Reactionary Mind should be required reading by leftists. It really helps to understand why conservatism is actively opposed to individual liberty and how they sell these regressive ideas to a population primed for them:

Conservatism, then, is not a commitment to limited government and liberty- or a wariness of change, a belief in evolutionary reform, or a politics of virtue. These may be the byproducts of conservatism, one or more of its historically specific and ever-changing modes of expression. But they are not its animating purpose. Neither is conservatism a makeshift fusion of capitalists, Christians, and warriors, for that fusion is impelled by a more elemental force- the opposition to the liberation of men and women from the fetters of their superiors, particularly in the private sphere. Such a view might seem miles away from the libertarian defense of the free market, with its celebration of the atomistic and autonomous individual. But it is not. When the libertarian looks out upon society, he does not see isolated individuals; he sees private, often hierarchical, groups, where a father governs his family and an owner his employees.

No simple defense of one's own place and privileges- the conservative, as I've said, may or may not be directly involved in or benefit from the practices of rule he defends; many, as we'll see, are not. The conservative position stems from a genuine conviction that a world thus emancipated will be ugly, brutish, base, and dull. It will lack the excellence of a world where the better man commands the worse. When Burke adds, in the letter quoted above, that the "great object" of the Revolution is “to root out that thing called an Aristocrat or Nobleman and Gentleman," he is not simply referring to the power of the nobility; he is also referring to the distinction that power brings to the world, If the power goes, the distinction goes with it. This vision of the connection between excellence and rule is what brings together in postwar America that unlikely alliance of the libertarian, with his vision of the employer's untramnmeled power in the workplace; the traditionalist, with his vision of the father's rule at home; and the statist, with his vision of a heroic leader pressing his hand upon the face of the earth. Each in his way subscribes to this typical statement, fromn the nineteenth century, of the conservative Creed: “To obey a real superior.. is one of the most important of all virtues- a virtue absolutely essential to the attainment of anything great and lasting."

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 13 points 4 months ago (2 children)

As stated in another comment, the vote is not what is foreboding about this. Enough crazy, radically charged, people believe and want Project 2025 and have been hearing calls to violence for years now, if the vote doesn’t go their way, not to sure they will be peaceful about it.

[–] frickineh@lemmy.world 16 points 4 months ago

Oh I have no doubt there will be violence if Biden wins, but they've already said there will be violence against opponents if Trump wins, so I think all anyone can do is be prepared.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Irrelevant fearmongering. Seriously, what's your purpose in making that comment? To discourage opposing them? To capitulate without a fight?

Fuck that! I say, "let them come," and then they can get what they deserve just like the Confederates and NAZIs did.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

More to get people riled up and ready for the fight that will most likely be coming. These stories about how the right is losing steam are puff pieces meant to make non voters complacent. People need to be angry and ready, not being placated and lazy.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Okay, I'll trust that you're being sincere. In that case, though, I think your tone/messaging could use some tweaking because (as you could probably tell) I did not read it that way initially.

[–] snekerpimp@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Yes, it was a bit over the top. It was early in the morning and I hadn’t had my coffee yet. Brain wasn’t working lol