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    [–] NaibofTabr@infosec.pub 20 points 4 months ago (4 children)

    If you're separating your application from the core system package manager and shared libraries, there had better be a good and specific reason for it (e.g. the app needs to be containerized for stability/security/weird dependency). If an app can't be centrally managed I don't want it on my system, with grudging exceptions.

    Chocolatey has even made this possible in Windows, and lately for my Windows environments if I can't install an application through chocolatey then I'll try to find an alternative that I can. Package managers are absolutely superior to independent application installs.

    [–] AnyOldName3@lemmy.world 21 points 4 months ago

    Typically Windows applications bundle all their dependencies, so Chocolatey, WinGet and Scoop are all more like installing a Flatpak or AppImage than a package from a distro's system package manager. They're all listed in one place, yes, but so's everything on FlatHub.

    [–] pennomi@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I think containerization for security is a damn good reason for virtually all software.

    [–] gaylord_fartmaster@lemmy.world 7 points 4 months ago

    Definitely. I'd rather have a "good and specific reason" why your application needs to use my shared libraries or have acess to my entire filesystem by default.

    [–] laurelraven@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 4 months ago

    I'm not sure where you're getting the idea that Flatpak aren't centrally managed...

    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 6 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I think stability is a pretty good reason

    If an app can't be centrally managed

    Open Discover, Gnome Software etc -> Click update?

    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 3 points 4 months ago (2 children)
    [–] Vittelius@feddit.de 1 points 4 months ago

    And with topgrade you can even upgrade flatpaks and your distros repos in one go

    [–] Kusimulkku@lemm.ee 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

    I'm now confused if they're saying that flatpak is centrally managed or not. To me it seems centrally managed, both the flatpak ecosystem but your whole machine (repo packages, firmware, flatpak) if you use those app stores. I might've misunderstood what they said.

    [–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 points 4 months ago

    We're both saying that it's centrally managed