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[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 18 points 4 months ago (3 children)

He just needs to keep his yap shut for one more day and he can start fixing things. And our absence in the EU is something that needs to be fixed.

[–] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 24 points 4 months ago (1 children)

and he can start fixing things

Lol, he has given absolutely no indication in his political career of any intention to fix anything (that matters to you and me, rather than capitalists and the rest of the establishment he represents, that is).

You want him to be quiet, but he keeps telling you over and over and over and over again who he really is, why won't you listen????

[–] HauntedCupcake@lemmy.world 14 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The policies to start nationalising a bunch of public services, abolishing no fault evictions, and the bolstered housing targets are all pretty solid. The additional union laws to help protect workers rights is amazing too.

I agree with your sentiment, none of the much needed structural change is going to occur. But he's a damn lot better than the Tories and a reason to feel somewhat optimistic.

I'm actually downright ecstatic at the idea of there being a pro-EU LibDem opposition to a Labour party that largely has pro-EU members (even if they need to tow the party line). A boring "left" party being opposed by an also boring "left" opposition sounds damn right cheery after the last 14 years. Hopefully it'll at least shift the conversation away from deporting people to Rwanda and into more sane territory

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 8 points 4 months ago

it’ll at least shift the conversation away from deporting people to Rwanda and into more sane territory

I agree, although the whole my lifetime is fucking arrogant and anti-democratic considering how close the vote was.

What worries me more is failing to have any real left of centre opposition.

This will lead to the right thinking they are safe to head far further right.

While failing to give the public any hope of real change. So 4 to 5 years from now. What sort of choice will we have. With polling showing Tory and reform with approx 36% between them. And any real left wing opinion being irrelevant in current polling due to 0 main party representation. The centre is moving pretty far right in general.

But then I said much the same in my late 20s prior to the 97 election. And little has convinced me I was wrong. So with any luck. My health means I won't see the shithole we end up with.

[–] aleph@lemm.ee 4 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

I think if substantial change is what you're expecting from a Labour/Starmer government, then you're going to be disappointed.

https://www.politico.eu/article/keir-starmer-labour-party-uk-election-u-turns/

[–] HowManyNimons@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago

Honestly I'd settle for a slight deceleration in things getting worse. Starmer wants to restore hope and faith in politics. He's got his work cut out for him.

[–] Twig@sopuli.xyz 1 points 4 months ago

I'm sure his saying nothing would go down really well.