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America’s big problem is not Joe Biden, it’s the menace to democracy posed by Donald Trump
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That's where I disagree.
trump just didn't maintain a veneer of civility.
But any Republican president would have done 99% of the same shit trump did.
What would really be dangerous is someone that didn't also run around admitting to all of their crimes, we barely are holding trump accountable and he's completely blatant and unapologetic when breaking the rules.
If it had been Paul Ryan or Jeb in 2016...
We'd be even more fucked than now.
You might be right, but what I meant is that no one can whip their followers into a mouth-frothing frenzy quite like he does. Come on, no one is storming the capital for Jeb.
What did trump actually do to cause it?
Bannon and other shit heels organized it, trump let it happen and shares all the guilt.
But it didn't happen because trump made it happen, it happened because he let it happen.
What's fucked, is someone like Jeb likely wouldn't have been in the position to even try it, because he wouldn't have fucked up COVID so spectacularly and likely would have won a second term. 2016 would have led to "project 2025" without the need to wait for 2025. Shit would have probably already been done. Jeb would have even gotten more SC seats that second term.
But if he lost due to something like Russian interference coming out (they'd have supported any Republican) and if he thought he honestly might face consequences...
Jeb would have 100% let it happen too.
trump just accelerated things before they were ready, so they failed.
But conservatives have been planning this shit literally since Nixon. Say what you want about the figureheads that get elected, but the people running the show behind the scenes are fucking intelligent, have resources, and plan decades ahead of time.
They also donate to both parties these days to ensure even when they lose, they're not really losing.
The surface game is just to distract us we won't fix shit until at least one party's leadership isn't corrupt.
It doesn't fucking matter who the Republican president is, the Republican president hasn't been the one actually doing shit since before Reagan.
And I know I went on a rant, I'm just sick and tired of the people who deserve the real blame constantly getting away with shit because everyone goes for the fall guy. Fall guy is still guilty. But you don't stop after getting the fall guy.
I think that, frankly, COVID would have fucked up any president. I mean, we had some damning rhetoric and piss poor moves, but on the other hand there weren't good moves really to be had. The best response would have still been an economic catastrophe that would not have recovered. We might have had fewer deaths, but we'd still have a lot of them. I think if it had been COVID-11 then even Obama would have lost his second term.