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[–] ShugarSkull@lemm.ee 8 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Are you sure? I can still read it?

Yeah, it's say's it was deleted by the creator, anyway that not what's important here

No I am not. I stated that the need for importing energy is dangerously high when the nuclear plants are offline.

You've stated :

Your nuclear plants are most of the time turned off because they aren’t working properly which destabilizes the entire European grid because you need to import so much electricity from your neighbours.

The way your statement is worded imply this is a common occurrence when I'm fact it is usually the other way around, France supply a lot of energy to it's neighbors

Additional France WAS a net exporter. 2022 it was importing more than exporting.

Yes in 2022 a year spectacularly weird for energy production everywhere in Europe thanks to the Ukrainian situation

But in 2023 France export more than import again Source : https://www.lemonde.fr/economie/article/2024/01/17/la-france-est-redevenue-premiere-exportatrice-d-electricite-en-europe-en-2023_6211385_3234.html

But anyway this is unrelated to my comment. I was talking about shutdowns due to technical issues and repairments. The larger one 2022 is also the reason why the ex/import balance shifted. Just as I claimed.

It's not clear from your text than this was your original intention

I said it was implemented to dampen the effects on inflation. Rising prices fueled (and still fuels) fears in the population which the right wing parties happily exploit.

No you did not say that, you said:

The only reason why your electricity is still so cheap is because your nuclear plants are so heavily subsidised by the state and the exploding energy prices in the recent past have also been capped by the state fearing the right wing uprise.

Inflation doesn't appear in your text

Furthermore, even if you say that now, the capping of electricity prices are not only to combat inflation, but yes it is a reason, one other is to prevent private company to dictate the price of electricity, as an "essential" it's important that every one in the country can afford electricity, it's the same thing here for medication for exemple, state chose the price for almost every medicine you can buy in France

I didn't pinned down anything myself. The concerns of economists and the EU are indeed about France fiscal deficits. The EU started a penalty process just a few days ago because of it

That's can be an entire new discussion (that I will not engage here, because I'm, and I think you too, as almost everyone, have not all the keys to discuss it) but economists say's a lot of things about this subject and forget that's France is it's own country and by that, have it's own way of thinking about debt, for many french leftist economists (not all obviously), debt is a good thing for exemple and that impact the way we use and think gouvernement funding

If you're interested I can link you to some resources on the question (albeit in french sorry)

PS: Sadly as I'm rereading my message, I'm realizing that the tone of it is harsher than I want it to be, buy I don't have the time or the energy to rewrite it in a more tasteful maner, sorry again

[–] imaqtpie@lemmy.myserv.one 4 points 4 months ago

Your tone is perfectly fine and you made very good points, thank you for the information.