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[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 20 points 4 months ago (3 children)

In case of Germany, they'd quite literally fire up coal over nuclear. Like holy shit...

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 12 points 4 months ago (2 children)
[–] uis@lemm.ee 2 points 4 months ago

Coal, gas and oil could be zero instead of nuclear.

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

Looks like I'm a bit behind on the latest news, I mean in 2015 it (basically) alone was still half of their energy production. That's quite the explosion, too bad it's largely wind power and...biomass??? Right it's "renewable©® (in theory)", not "sustainable right now or benefitial to the current situation". Same to the natural gass growth, guess it's better than coal, but come on... And to my original point, in your graph we can see a negative corelation between coal+lignite over nuclear at a few ranges (when they shut down nuclear over fucking coal), roughly starting after 2005. Also wow, they actually fucking killed nuclear last year... JESUS...

[–] friendlymessage@feddit.de 2 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (3 children)

Solar is ahead of biomass and while solar and wind is growing, biomass is not. You're also misreading the graph. Nuclear was never such a huge part of Germany's energy production and killing nuclear was a 25 year long process, Germany let most of the plants run and just did not build new ones

While I agree that getting rid of coal first would have been the better strategy, I don't get this nuclear power fetish and constant bashing of Germany on this while most countries are doing worse than Germany. Nuclear power is extremely expensive, we have as of now no storage solution for nuclear waste in Germany and Germany has no source of nuclear material itself. There are quite a few drawbacks

[–] ShortN0te@lemmy.ml 2 points 4 months ago

Just want to throw in this link. https://energy-charts.info/?l=en&c=DE

Very detailed info on Energy and power usage in Germany

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

I didn't say nuclear was ever big in Germany. The whole point is about Germany being against it. If you mean the part where I said it was half their energy production, I meant coal+lignite.

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Nothing generates more than nuclear (like it's not even comparable), it has basically zero emissions and there are countries like Finland who'll happily let you burry it there, tho you ofc don't need to go that far away. You don't need to dispose it nearly as often as coal ash, so it being in another country ain't really that big of a deal.

Ofc solar is also a great option, because of the versatility, sadly German seems to really fucking love wind.

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 5 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

im fact they're closing one of the last scaled down power plant simulator, where scientists and students could have a hands down experience in learning about It

im not german, but its so sad, the thing was even made of glass so you could literally see the process

Kyle's video

[–] LANIK2000@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Oh thank god... Apparently they aren't destroying it YET. There is hope. Personally, I'd feel a lot safer if it went into more nuclear loving hands, like the French or Czech, actually, most of Germany's neighbors would do.

[–] hswolf@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

hell yeah, sometimes problems just need a bit of internet exposure

[–] cammoblammo@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

In Australia the coal and gas industries appear to be pushing nuclear quite hard, mainly because they distract from the renewable options preferred by the market. They know that while we’re arguing over literally every other power source, they can just keep burning holes in the ground.