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[–] CeeBee@lemmy.world 41 points 1 year ago (2 children)

People with dexterity and hand control challenges have a difficult time with these skinny scroll bars.

I have neither dexterity nor hand control challenges and I still find it incredibly hard to grab those skinny scroll bars.

One additional design "feature" I really despise is auto hiding scroll bars. So then to visually see when I am I have to scroll up and down to bring it back.

And web designers that do that stupid scroll hijacking where scrolling "stops" and then things move around for a bit should be launched into the sun. It's the most anti-UX design I've ever seen. It's literally the same as temporarily causing your mouse cursor to move in the opposite direction of input and then calling it a "design feature".

Imagine if each application on your computer arbitrarily changed up the direction your mouse cursor moves. It's literally the same thing. Computer input should be 100% predictable and reliable. The instant you do that it makes the computer/program/website feel sluggish and inoperative.

[–] TwanHE@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That scroll hijacking legit feels like getting stunned in call of duty or something, suddenly your mouse just doesn't want to do what you tell it to.

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago (3 children)

Just more examples of modern designers creating shit to stay relevant.

I hate modern design. We had good design up until the mid-2000s, then it all started going to shit.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

We had good design up until the mid-2000s,

...when people were saying "I hate modern design. We had good design up until the mid-1980s..."

...when people were saying "I hate modern design. We had good design up until the mid-1960s..."

...when people were saying "I hate modern design. We had good design up until the mid-1940s..."

...when people were saying "I hate modern design. We had good design up until the mid-1920s..."

Rinse, repeat. The past wasn't always better, you were just younger. We just had different design problems in 2005.

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee -2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Wrong, but okay.

There is a trend of users lowering their standards so developers' jobs are easier. It's why we don't get settings as often as we used to.

[–] ilinamorato@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

No, we don't get settings because companies skimp out on engineers to actually build the backend, and Apple normalized not being able to customize your workflow so people accept it. It has very little to do with design trends.

[–] atetulo@lemm.ee 1 points 1 year ago

You just described design trends then said they have very little to do with design trends.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Back in the day, the guideline was to put useful information and links at the top of the page when it loads, so that people could read the important bits and follow the links they needed without having to scroll down. Then everyone started using the entire space on load for a stock marketing photo or video so you would always need to scroll to see anything useful. Then they added whitespace everywhere so you'd need to scroll more. Then they removed the scrollbars. And sometimes they make scrolling do unpredictable animations instead of scrolling. It has become self-indulgent design instead of functional.

[–] piranhaphish@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

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