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Just Stop Oil: do radical protests turn the public away from a cause? Here’s the evidence
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Here is what I've learned: If you see an angry person with purple or green hair, they are emotionally unstable and impossible to have a civilized argument with.
Their cause to steer away from fossil fuels is a very good cause to strive for. But only when the technology is there to bridge the gap when renewables aren't producing energy. We're getting there, but not today.
And the actions and unrealistic demands of this spoiled university brat who's living the good life isn't helping their cause. There are several interviews of this girl, when you see them you will wonder how on earth is she in a university, she's not smart at all, she can ramble though
We absolutely are the technology to at the very least drastically reduce the usage of fossil fuels.
Yes we have, but I can't afford it. These stop oil want to redirect subsidizing from oil to renewable. This sound great in theory until you think about all you need to go renewable: a lot of solar panels for sun, wind turbines for winter, large battery, gas boiler replaced with heat pump, petrol car replaced with electric (wife), motorcycle replace with electric (me commute)
No matter how much the government subsidizes this, this will bankrupt every middle class worker with a mortgage 3x over. And even if you want to do the conversation step by step to save up, in the meantime your unsubsidized fuel is 5x more expensive so you have nothing to save up.
You might be interested in this climate misinformation chart.
Hint: you're at the top of the "climate delay" section.
I guess I am. But they should add "too poor to convert to electric" in that bubble.
What? No, that makes no sense.
Why would renewables be that expensive?
The electricity grid should absolutely be replaced ASAP. Old homes with ancient gas, coal, and oil heating will also need more modern alternatives like geothermal, heat pumps, or even direct electric heating.
Not literally every single thing needs to be replaced today.
It will take time but we should ramp it way up.
You're ignoring my statement when you say "not everything needs to change today".
When subsidizing switches from oil to renewables (this is what stop oil wants) there is no gradual transition because oil will be too expensive. If that happens I can't afford heating or transportation unless I replace those with electric, which I can't afford either.
Waiting around for the technology to magically pop up will doom us to an unending dustbowl and war and maybe even extinction
Technology doesnt get developed unless there is demand, except by university kids who take out massive loans to do the work of research.
We need to create demand by demanding action by governments and divesting from fossil fuels. That is the intent of the protestors.
I've besn participating in non-obstructive protests for almost 2 decades and it's done virtuallty nothing
What you are seeing is desperation. We need financial incentives for going green dont pan out for 50 years so nobody cares. Most people are to busy trying to pay rent this month to care about 50 years from now.
BTW if 50 years ago folks had heeded the initial warnings of scientists and curbed emissions by 0.5% annually, global warming would not be an issue.
Instead we drastically increased emissions since then, we now need to cut a ridiculous percentage annually and we're still going to lose trillions of dollars to climate related damage, crop loss and climate-related wars.
The university gets paid the same amount for graduating dumbasses and geniuses