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Cloudflare is bad. Youre right. (lemm.ee)
submitted 5 months ago by Kuvwert@lemm.ee to c/selfhosted@lemmy.world
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Centralization is bad for everyone everywhere.

That bring said... I just moved my homeserver to another city... and I plugged in the power, then I plugged in the ethernet, and that was the whole shebang.

Tunnels made it very easy. No port forwarding no dns configuration no firewall fiddling no nothing.

Why do they have to make it so so easy...

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[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 10 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I mean, I used to think Google Public DNS was great until I switched to 1.1.1.1...

[–] Fuzzypyro@lemmy.world 22 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you like 1.1.1.1 the. You should try 9.9.9.9. Or better yet host unbound pihole if you’re up to the challenge. Best dns experience I’ve had.

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I already use pihole, but with cloudflared as the upstream. What benefits does unbound offer besides improved security?

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It's actually better privacy since it talks directly to the root servers instead of cloudflare knowing all of your DNS traffic. Quad9 is a good alternative with better data policies

[–] IHawkMike@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (4 children)

So now your ISP sees all of your queries instead of CF. (Assuming the cloudflared option is using DoH)

I'll trust Cloudflare over Comcast/AT&T/etc. any day of the week.

[–] girsaysdoom@sh.itjust.works 1 points 4 months ago

It looks like Quad9 supports DoH: quad9

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

You can run a VPN and tunnel your outbound DNS queries over that. Heck, you could tunnel your DNS queries over TOR

[–] maxwellfire@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago

Your ISP knows where you're going anyway. They don't need DNS for that. They see all the traffic.

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

You might want to study more about SNI. Your ISP knows anyway

[–] IHawkMike@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I know plenty account SNI already, but thanks. You might want to study more yourself, since we're being condescending.

https://blog.cloudflare.com/encrypted-sni/

[–] MigratingtoLemmy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 months ago

Well, running your own DNS server will also give you eSNI. And Cloudflare still doesn't know anything

[–] Andromxda@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you use 9.9.9.9, you should try Mullvad DNS (with adblocking) or AdGuard Public DNS

[–] Manalith@midwest.social 3 points 4 months ago

Since we're all throwing out DNS options, I'll toss in NextDNS

[–] Kuvwert@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What benefits are you having from switching?

[–] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

1.1.1.1/cloudflared responds crazy fast compared to anything else i've used. I really just wanted off Google (and before them OpenDNS). That's about it.

[–] Sunny@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 months ago

Commenting as I am curious about this too!