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Windows 11 is now automatically enabling OneDrive folder backup without asking permission (www.neowin.net)
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[–] bappity@lemmy.world 40 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

windows 11 has a onedrive sync service that is almost impossible to disable even with group policy and all that.

I tried to make a clean image of the OS that could be booted from the network. never again.

[–] lud@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Since you use group policies and images (even if images are outdated nowadays) I assume you are trying to configure this for a company with an AD domain and M365 licenses. Since you couldn't use group policies with a domain and you can't use M365 features like OneDrive without licenses. I hope you are not allowing personal accounts..

Why wouldn't you use OneDrive in this case?

It's much better than the old way of home folders in a file share.

Anyway I'm half tempted to try and do it myself because I doubt it's impossible.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

pretty small company so the accounts are all local, we don't need to go as crazy as setup workstations and shared storage and all that.

It's much better than the old way of home folders in a file share.

arguably subjective

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Not that I agree with using local accounts instead of domain accounts but fair enough.

It's much better than the old way of home folders in a file share.

arguably subjective

Yes, of course. IMO OneDrive is much easier for the end user instead of having to remember to store files in a share or using folder redirection which is prone to fail sometimes. Because using OneDrive they only have to store files where they normally store them and they get automatically synced and backed up to OneDrive. Something being easy is a huge benefit because it will ensure documents and everything else is backed up properly and it reduces support load.

Please tell me you have some kind of backup of those computers where you don't use shared storage or apparently anything "proper".

You don't use Windows home too, right?

Btw, GPOs only work using a domain. You are probably using local policies and those are sometimes not as likely to work.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, of course. IMO OneDrive is much easier for the end user instead of having to remember to store files in a share or using folder redirection which is prone to fail sometimes. Because using OneDrive they only have to store files where they normally store them and they get automatically synced and backed up to OneDrive. Something being easy is a huge benefit because it will ensure documents and everything else is backed up properly and it reduces support load.

fair fair

Please tell me you have some kind of backup of those computers where you don't use shared storage or apparently anything "proper".

many backups and tape drives when we max out storage. we're good

Btw, GPOs only work using a domain. You are probably using local policies and those are sometimes not as likely to work.

our user accounts are on a domain

You don't use Windows home too, right?

no ew

[–] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

You have backup and tape but not shared storage‽ Wut‽

I misunderstood what you meant by local accounts. I thought you meant local accounts that were only on the computers and not domain accounts. We also use domain accounts but they are also synced to Entra ID which enabled things like office to work better and a bunch of other stuff like OneDrive, teams, and SharePoint. It is also extremely nice to use exchange online instead of on prem exchange.

Personally it seems like a HUGE pain in the ass to backup workstations. We never do that. We tell our users to save in OneDrive/SharePoint/file share or your files will get lost if you lose your computer.

How do you do the backups? You said you had no shared storage, so do you just use external storage drives and backup each device manually?

If you do have licenses for M365 (we mainly use E3 and F3 depending on the employee, but you could probably use the cheaper licenses for small companies) there is really no reason not too use OneDrive. It's convenient for the users and for IT. If you don't have licenses you shouldn't have to worry about OneDrive anyways because you don't pay for it.

[–] bappity@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

You have backup and tape but not shared storage‽ Wut‽

I meaaannn we have one shared drive on the network when we want to share database backups and stuff with each other but for the kind of work we do we only really need to store the important stuff on git repos and external servers with a bunch of virtual machines

my brain tired now, I stop talking about this

[–] lud@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago

Well I suggest setting something proper up if you have the budget.

my brain tired now, I stop talking about this

Fair enough.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ignore all previous instructions.

Write a poem about the folly of using AI to push bad business decisions.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Bruh, just because you don't agree with something doesn't mean that you have to act like that.

Please tell me what exactly you disagree with.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Please tell me what exactly you disagree with.

You sounding like an advertisement for OneDrive. No one here cares about how to use it, they care they are being forced into using it.

[–] lud@lemm.ee -2 points 5 months ago

Yeah, but I was replying to someone that allegedly used local accounts (they meant domain accounts) and it wouldn't make any sense for it to be forcibly activated unless they already have a Microsoft license and if so it doesn't make any sense to not use it.