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[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago (1 children)

That doesn't seem to matter. Trump has essentially broken all of them.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 7 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't. Pointing out the contradictions in fascism doesn't stop fascism because they don't care about contradictionss. They care about enforcing an authoritarian ideology on everyone, and to that end everything is permissable. As long as they're still intent on securing power, their followers don't care. It's not about being right or making sense. It's about seizing power by any means. In a democracy, that means saying whatever bullshit you have to to keep your followers engaged.

Making fun of them for their contradictions does nothing to stop them. Not taking fascist movements seriously and expecting them to go away because their beliefs are silly is what Germany did when Hitler was rising to power. It's not a good strategy.

[–] assassin_aragorn@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

Making fun of them for their contradictions does nothing to stop them.

It certainly won't stop them, but it's also one of the greatest weapons against them. Ridicule of fascists is one thing they absolutely cannot stand, and its something the voting public pays attention to -- especially if the ridicule causes them to act out.

Ridicule should not be the only tool, but it's still a valuable one.

[–] Marthirial@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

So besides a world War (like the one needed to stop Hitler) what's a good strategy? It seems fascism always has the upper hand.

[–] Rooskie91@discuss.online 3 points 5 months ago

Show them their out numbered. Make it as uncomfortable as possible for them to express their opinions in public. They believe that they're the silent majority, so if you make them see that they're not, it's something.

Take them seriously. Show them that we're taking them seriously and won't allow them to seize power.