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[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Why not fund raise and set up a lobby group and fund politicians to pass laws. Why stand in traffic. Seems like the most ineffective backward steps

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 3 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Why not fund raise and set up a lobby group and fund politicians to pass laws.

Do you think some kids are going to be able to buy the support of politicians by outbidding the oil companies?

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Do you think some kids are going to be able to buy the support of politicians by outbidding the oil companies?

Politicians care about votes, money is just an easy way to get them. No, a bunch of kids by themselves brings nothing to the table. A bunch of extremists probably never gets to the table. Do you know what’s the only thing that may outrank those corporate interests? Votes. If you bring votes to the table they don’t even have to buy, you’ll get a response

Notice what’s being discussed here. You claim this type of action gets people talking but no one here is discussing their cause nor supporting it

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Yeah because these people are making random attacks on landmarks instead of going after oil refineries and gas stations. Their strategy is confusing to the general public.

Targeting oil companies directly would force people to talk about the actual issue. "These radicals put orange dust on Stonehenge what are they trying to accomplish with that?" vs. "these radicals got an oil refinery shut down for a day, what are they trying to accomplish with that?" The former requires an abstract explanation (which isn't effective) while the latter has a very obvious answer to the point where most people won't even bother asking the question.

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Yes, why wouldn't they. What do you think TPUSA is

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

By TPUSA do you mean Turning Point USA, the organization that's funded by billionaires?

[–] Melvin_Ferd@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

A single kid who won support and funding of politicians and other powerful people. A real asshole who I think dropped out of college.

I hear how the left is so much smarter by often I see the left doing foolish stuff like spray painting historical works to fight climate change or advocating to deflate tires from the general public.

All the while the right are going across the country to college campuses and bringing their band of idiots like JP and Kirk to speak directly to the youth about their issues