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[โ€“] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 77 points 5 months ago (4 children)

Where do you think pizza comes from?

[โ€“] PugJesus@lemmy.world 63 points 5 months ago (5 children)

Like all things, we have seized it and made it our own. Like how getting Chinese food in an American restaurant only vaguely resembles Chinese cuisine. ๐Ÿ’ช

[โ€“] Droggelbecher@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (2 children)

To be fair Chinese food in Europe doesn't have much to do with actual Chinese food either

[โ€“] pigup@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Dude I had sweet and sour chicken at a Chinese food joint in a mall in chemnitz Germany, it was a friggin schnitzel. Just with sweet sour sauce. And instead of potatoes it was a ball of rice lol. I found the picture I took here ๐Ÿคฃ:

[โ€“] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago

If I wasn't paying attention, looks like katsu curry until I notice the sauce looks like pure sugar. But ya nowadays everyone's got their schnitzel variant ๐Ÿ˜‚

[โ€“] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Depends on the restaurant, but in general - yes, proper Chinese is rare.

[โ€“] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 9 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I mean, tomatoes are a fruit native to the Americas, so even though pizza was invented in Italy, its invention is still tied to the America side of the Atlantic in some ways. Pizza has a very interesting past!

[โ€“] PunkiBas@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Pizza existed before they had tomatoes tho

[โ€“] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I would argue that the modern understanding of pizza in Italy and across the globe is one that includes tomatoes. Things prior to that called pizza would likely not pass as pizza today. And it's pretty accepted that pizza and tomatoes are very linked. Imo you're being pedantic.

[โ€“] uienia@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Guess you never heard of pizza bianca then. Please try not to formulate grand theories before knowing just a sliver of the involved facts, thank you.

[โ€“] Cosmos7349@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Arguing that the history of pizza is not deeply intertwined with tomatoes is a pretty weird hill to die on

[โ€“] jballs@sh.itjust.works 5 points 5 months ago

Also, we Costco-sized it. That is a single slice of pizza in that photo.

[โ€“] samus12345@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

It's Chinese inspired American food.

[โ€“] HeyMrDeadMan@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

To be fair, most of what I've seen of Chinese cuisine looks like dog yack, so I think we got the better end of the deal.

[โ€“] Drusas@kbin.run 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Real, eaten-in-China Chinese food is amazing. Highly regional, though, so you may love one region's cuisine and not another's. Some of the best food on earth for sure, though.

[โ€“] MudMan@fedia.io 6 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Fun fact, in many places, soft-serve ice cream is known as "Italian ice cream".

What we are seeing here is a slightly botched traditional Italian lunch.

[โ€“] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 5 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

In many places

In very few places ftfy

[โ€“] deezbutts@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

slightly

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[โ€“] samus12345@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Italian pizza is really different than American.

[โ€“] Damage@feddit.it 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Yes, usually it's a whole pizza, not one tenth

[โ€“] uienia@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[โ€“] Damage@feddit.it 1 points 5 months ago

Va bene per i bambini

[โ€“] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world -1 points 5 months ago

You clearly have never had Italian pizza. Not even close.

Pizza is American unless you want to claim every flatbread is a pizza.