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Israel’s military has informed the United Nations that the entire population of northern Gaza should relocate to the southern half of the territory within 24 hours, the U.N. spokesman, Stéphane Dujarric, said late on Thursday night, adding that such a movement — involving over one million people — would lead to “devastating humanitarian consequences.”

“The same order applied to all U.N. staff and those sheltered in U.N. facilities — including schools, health centers and clinics,” Mr. Dujarric said.

The U.N. was told that the marker dividing the north from south was Wadi Gaza, the statement said.

The U.N. Security Council is scheduled to hold an emergency meeting on Friday afternoon in a closed consultation format

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[–] samson@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago (1 children)

There's no use in analogising such a complex situation, it utterly fails to capture the situation or the context. You're also welcome to theorise whether or not Israel deliberately sought the deaths of 2000 citizens just to cleanse Gaza but that's a massive claim for someone not privy to classified knowledge.

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 1 year ago (2 children)

You’re also welcome to theorise whether or not Israel deliberately sought the deaths of 2000 citizens just to cleanse Gaza but that’s a massive claim for someone not privy to classified knowledge.

Whether it sought that or not, it was awfully unprepared for the attack itself, but amazingly well prepared for all the followup military, diplomatic and propaganda actions. So I'm starting to think this is not a conspiracy theory.

[–] SwampYankee@mander.xyz 9 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Israel has conscription and it's the size of New Jersey. It's not hard for them to mobilize to whatever border they need to within hours.

[–] CriticalMiss@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

True. Takes about 6 hours in a car from the most southern city (Eilat) to the most northern kibbutz in the north (Metula)

[–] vacuumflower@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 1 year ago

Eh, it's harder than you may think. I know they have a working system in place, but for most countries something of that scale is a problem not at all because of their size.

I'm not talking just about mobilization, rather about them quickly mounting the news on the massacre to justify their impending ground operation, and that operation itself being prepared so fast, and a whole US fleet with an aircraft carrier going to support them.

Just seems like something prepared beforehand, and it's politics and diplomacy, so that wouldn't really be a conspiracy theory, again. Maybe the massacre itself was unexpected, but the operation was planned, and the schedule was simply adjusted a bit because of this event.

[–] samson@aussie.zone 1 points 1 year ago

Crazy that's a country only needs a little time to mobilise when they're a conscription based country. In the words of the IRA Israel only needs to miss once for Hamas to get an attack off. If all it takes for you to "start believing" something is a mere suggestion with no evidence then I have a bridge to sell you and about 90 conspiracy theories as well.