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Oh, this is going to be juicy!
Tell me what you think happened in Tiananmen Square in 1989. I'll wait with the reams and reams and reams of corrections on standby. (Hint: There's a very good chance that literally everything you "know" about Tiananmen Square is wrong. Just as a taste of what's to come if you take the bait: "tank man" wasn't run over by a tank. No matter what you think you know.)
What I know about Tiananmen is less important than what I know that China has done afterwards.
Look at how these Chinese citizens act when they're asked about it.The people who know anything are afraid to talk about it.
Whatever propaganda you want to spew, anybody who watches this video will know there is something deeply wrong with China.
In the very first paragraph Vox gets it wrong.
Not a surprise.
Here's a little hint: look up Columbia University's Columbia Journalism Review and see if you can tell why I'm laughing at Vox right now.
I don't care what Vox says. I wasn't talking about the article. Just the video. They didn't make the video. In fact, I only mentioned the video in my comment, and your response completely ignored it.
And just to make the point as obvious as possible, you were asking what you wouldn't learn about as well in China, and here you can see people who are afraid their government will punish them for talking about it.
It's obvious that in an environment like that, either people are misinformed due to their government, or they're informed in spite of their government. Either way, it doesn't look good for the government.
It's a hard counter to your original statement.
I'm at work. I can't watch video at the moment.
But I can make some guesses.
"Random stranger with a camera crew walks up to a citizen of an authoritarian state and asks 'do you know what happened today?'."
Fuck yeah I'm going to turn away and walk off. Hell I'd be tempted to do it in Canada! (Not a fan of most Canadian media.)