Spending any resources trying to colonize another fucking planet, while we continue to render ours uninhabitable is so fucking stupid. How about we re-learn how to live in balance with natural systems here, and then try and terraform another planet from scratch?

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 19 points 4 months ago (1 children)

The same argument existed since the beginning of space exploration, if we, as a species would have heard those arguments, we wouldn't have satellite today, and all the other advances space exploration brought.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

We haven't tried to colonize anywhere though, and arguments against colonization are still relevant. The advances you mention all happened without attempting to colonize anywhere.

[–] A_Chilean_Cyborg@feddit.cl 2 points 4 months ago

we have permanent habitation in space tough, and an absurd load of scientific advance has been made in the ISS.

[–] Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com 15 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I once met someone who said that it's a pipe dream to think we could have equality between races before we had equality within the same race, and that we should make sure that there aren't any poor white people before we start worrying about PoC.

These two projects build on each other. Furthermore, each has a minimum time that no amount of researchers working together can push us below. To say we shouldn't do one because we haven't done another only serves to reveal your ignorance.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml -1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Hey I like SciFi too, but we have pressing issues right here on the only planet we know for a fact that can support life. If we get that fixed, we have until the sun explodes to figure out terraforming other planets. The bottom line is that one issue has a looming deadline, and the other does not. It's a misallocation of resources to entertain the latter before solving the former. Reminds me of a Vonnegut quote I read the other day: "another flaw in the human character is that everybody wants to build, and nobody wants to do maintenance."

[–] gheesh@lemmy.world 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Of all the resource- wasting human activities, why should we cut spacefaring? Can't we start by dismantling AI, cosmetics, golf courses,... and then if some last minute precious resources are needed we can talk about not going to space?

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 months ago

I'm all for cutting that stuff too.

[–] aStonedSanta@lemm.ee 5 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I am always happy to see people that haven’t lost hope. I hope you enjoy your life 💜💜. No sarcasm.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 0 points 4 months ago

Cheers, Santa!

[–] intensely_human@lemm.ee 9 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Trying to raise a child before retiring is stupid for the same reason. Yet here we are not waiting to organize our lives into serial convenience.

[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 months ago

That is not comparable. It's more like shopping for a new car while the one you're in is veering towards the cliff edge.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

But how is that going to bolster the fragile egos of some delusional billionaire techbro narcissists?

[–] Wooki@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

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