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[–] troydowling@lemmy.world 37 points 1 year ago (2 children)

Root access should be available from the moment my purchase payment clears. I paid, it's my device.

[–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 12 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Exactly. If you don't have root, you don't "own" the device. Apps, like bank apps, that refuse to run on devices with root access, (or custom OSs) should be illegal.

[–] lemann@lemmy.one 2 points 1 year ago

My bank gave me a hardware 2FA keypad as a replacement thankfully...

Any services/apps that don't work on my rooted device as-is are out, only a few like Netflix are an exception due to others using it 🥲

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 0 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For apple, the iPhone is like DRM for their software and you buy the license to use iOS and not hardware. 😅

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago (1 children)

For ~~apple~~ basically every smartphone maker except a small subset with the marketshare that is basically a rounding error that focus on openness, the ~~iPhone~~ smartphone is like DRM for their software and you buy the license to use iOS and not hardware. 😅

Just because Android is more customizable and has worse security practices that allow jailbreak/root easier doesn't mean that it's an intended feature or that most don't actively fight against it. The default for virtually all phones sold is lock you into their App Store and extract revenue from using their services. As much as I love the convenience of smartphones, it's frankly a mistake the entire consumer market made in allowing the default be that you can't fully control your device 100%, whether that's running root or just repairing them easily.

[–] Petter1@lemm.ee 4 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Good point, I agree. Put for what I understand unlocking the bootloader on pixel phones is an intended feature on the phone. Hidden feature, but intended to be useable by any who thinks they are a Dev. Source: https://www.thecustomdroid.com/google-pixel-bootloader-unlock-guide/

Please correct me if I’m wrong.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

I think you're right. I didn't get too specific but that was the part I intended in the "small subset" comment I made, along with others like FairPhone, who I assume offer this.