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[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 128 points 5 months ago (5 children)

I'm now at a point that I can't watch American media at all because everyone just looks the fuckin same.

Generic actress no.495 with horrifyingly white teeth Vs generic actor no.5638 with horrifyingly white teeth

[–] varnia@lemm.ee 57 points 5 months ago (2 children)

What's is this with the teeth? Are they all wearing fake teeth? Don't tell me everyone has such a great mouth hygiene and dental care with sugar in everything you eat in US?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 73 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Serious answer? Yes. They often have either bleached teeth, which eventually destroys them so then they need veneers (fake front) and after that they get dentures.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 21 points 5 months ago (8 children)

What.

Just…what.

Where are you getting this information? You’re talking about the US, where we have excellent healthcare for people who can afford it, and those people can fuckin afford it.

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 44 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Being rich does not make people smart.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 8 points 5 months ago (2 children)

…okay? What does that have to do with anything? Are you okay?

[–] then_three_more@lemmy.world 49 points 5 months ago

They spend a lot of money on the appearance of their teeth, instead of spending it on the health of their teeth. Seemed pretty obvious to me.

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 5 months ago

that's a pretty ironic comment lol

[–] ramirezmike@programming.dev 18 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Americans have really white teeth compared to the rest of the world, especially in hollywood

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago

A fact many Americans are trying to kill because "fluoride in the water is bad"

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Imagine thinking that

where we have excellent healthcare for people who can afford it

Is something to be proud of.

Christ on a bike

[–] Duranie@literature.cafe 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don't think that was being stated as a point of pride. It's just the shitty state of things here.

[–] trollbearpig@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Sorry, but he is obviously proud of that. Look at his response https://lemm.ee/comment/12363119. He is clearly so much smarter than the rest of us, so he doesn't realize the dumb shit he is saying hahahaha.

[–] Hugh_Jeggs@lemm.ee 13 points 5 months ago

Are you ok

Is the most condescending, cunty, redditesque remark of the last year

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

No, you were very much misreading the comment. They just threw a crazy factoid out there. And then followed with a non sequitur about “rich =/= smart.” And why would my confusion mean I love privatized medicine?

I mean, you’re not wrong about me being smarter than the rest of you. I’m just choosing to ignore the part where it’s only in my head. Because I’m so much smarter. (jk)

[–] trollbearpig@lemmy.world 12 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I love how people like you sometimes stumble into weird truths hahaha. Like yeah, the stupid medical system you guys have in the US sucks even for people with money (luckily I'm from a latin american country that's not yet a pro/anti US dictatorship, but soon ...). Like it's that ridiculous, even people with money in the US end up fucking themselves medically, that's the freedom you get from that stupid healthcare system hahahaha. And people like you have stockholm syndrom.

Sadly this is infecting my country too, famous and rich people now have pennywise white teeth lol. For now I don't feel too bad for them, fuck these pricks wasting money in this shit while people go hungry here. But I do feel a bit sad for them.

[–] yuri@pawb.social 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If I ever get dummy rich I’m gonna get veneers, but I’m gonna have em just do the cheaper solid titanium ones for my entire mouth. Look like a fucken halloween monster so people won’t take me seriously if I ever get delirious enough to veer into politics or something else rich people shouldn’t do.

[–] trollbearpig@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Hahahahahaha, nice one. But I suspect people will actually trust you more with your titanium teeth lol.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I don’t know what you think my beliefs about the healthcare system are. But I’m pretty damn sure they’re not what you’re assuming.

Because of our vampiric, fucked up greedy system of healthcare, it attracts pretty amazing doctors because they make insane money. Private money is good for the people who tend to control it. It’s just horrific for those of us without money. So the rich tend to get insanely good healthcare in the US.

[–] trollbearpig@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry if you meant something else dude. But read your comment and your reply and see what you actually said dude. You sound like you are saying that rich people are so smart and well protected from their bad decision by your healthcare system, so they are not whitening their teeth? Hell, even if you were right about this you don't provide any evidence or arguments for anything you said, you were just rude and condescending to everyone.

Again, I'm sorry if you meant something else. But people missinterpreting here is on you man.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Dude. I reread it dude. It does not read that way. Others have even said that’s not what I said. It could be misconstrued that way, but that’s exactly what it is. A misconstruction.

You’re just having a hard time because there’s nuance. I was expressing something that doesn’t scream that I hate the way things work, but that what the person was saying seemed outlandish. This being the internet, it’s hard when things aren’t “I believe X” and “well, I hate X, I’m a Y’er!” There is a range of conversation from disagreement on the subject to disagreement on the discussion to literally so much nuance in between. You just think because I said something that someone could say in a screed about supporting the system.

The gross inequity of for-profit healthcare means there is a ton of money to be made. Logically, that attracts high quality doctors—for those that can afford it. It shouldn’t be that way. But it is.

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/how-do-us-physician-salaries-compare-with-those-abroad/

Look at the difference there.

Just because you read the word “quality” in association with the US healthcare system doesn’t mean I support it. Recognizing trends and truths about things that may be construed as a positive for issues you don’t agree with does not mean you support the idea. Ignoring those truths just because they don’t jibe with you worldview is beyond ignorant.

Creating an unequal system that means access is limited to those with insane amounts of money will lead to higher amounts of money for people taking it from the rich people. Acknowledging that should be a pretty basic truth. But this is the time of internet two-sidesism, where people routinely ignore and deny basic realities because it doesn’t help their argument is fucking dumb. But that’s the temperature of the water we’re swimming in. So it struck you as strange that I wouldn’t do mental gymnastics to ignore a fact that’s gross, even if it could be construed as a positive for people who support it.

[–] trollbearpig@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Look man. This comment is actually very different to your initial comment, and honestly it sounds very reasonable to me.

But can you explain to me what you were trying to say in the original comment please? Again, to me it reads like you are saying "rich and famous people are not whitening their teeths in the USA" which is factually incorrect. And to top it off, it looks like you are saying "it's impossible for rich people to get bad healthcare in the US because they have money", which is non sense as shown by this example of teeth whitening. And the more I read this comment, plus your very rude response ("are you okay?" Seriously dude, that's no way to have a conversation even if you were right), the more it looks like this is what you are saying. And that's what I was answering to.

I'm not saying, and I never said, that you think the healthcare system in the US is good. But the more I re read your comments, the less I understand what you were trying to say if it's not what I "quoted" above.

[–] TheFriar@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

It’s not though. All I said is that people with tons of money can get the best care in the world—available in the US. That’s not a condemnation of socialized medicine, that’s not an endorsement of privatized medicine. That’s me saying exactly what I’m saying in this comment in another way. These people can afford the best. Because they’re rich as fuck.

Subtext: BEING RICH SHOULD NOT BE A HURDLE TO GOOD HEALTHCARE.

They’re in LA. A place that attracts plastic surgeons, orthodontists, dentists, any doctor that deals in appearance. Because they make insane money with their celebrity clientele.

So many Hollywood actors are nepo babies. They have cosmetic doctors that can do anything and everything at the right cost. I don’t have the data, but I’d be willing to bet it’s a majority of them that come from famous Hollywood parents. They are in Hollywood because they were born into it. They grew up with Hollywood level beautification health care. That includes teeth.

[–] JJROKCZ@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Veneers are very popular nowadays amongst the rich and those that wish to appear rich

[–] iheartneopets@lemm.ee 6 points 5 months ago

Unfortunately it's true. It's pretty well known in beauty/aesthetic procedure spaces, which many celebrities inhabit. It's why so many have samey looking teeth, it's wild.

[–] ondoyant@beehaw.org 4 points 5 months ago

its not completely wrong. getting cosmetic veneers is a pretty common practice in hollywood. they don't cause your teeth to decay or whatever, but lots of celebs have them.

[–] Maggoty@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Not all actors grew up rich? Some of them fucked around with drugs pretty hard when they were younger too.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

That is becoming less and less the case. Nepotism is insane in Hollywood.

There's still the occasional person "off the street" but the large percentage of them are someone famous's cousin, nephew, sister, etc...

[–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 1 points 5 months ago

Don’t forget the wholesale smoking since they’re teenagers.

[–] ramble81@lemm.ee 44 points 5 months ago (2 children)

It’s even sadder when you have an actor(ess) that is beautiful in their own way and then gets surgery or something else to conform to the way everyone else looks.

[–] kameecoding@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Erin Moriarty pictures just make me fucking sad.

[–] MacAttak8@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

She was literally the first person I thought of when reading this as well.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

I looked up a recent interview for The Boys season 4 and I have no idea what y'all are talking about. At most, she changed the type of makeup she regularly does and lost weight/aged out of her baby face. Your face can change a lot, especially in your 20s. I'm also not sure what wasn't conventionally about her at any point.

Thinking she's had surgery when she hasn't is more toxic for beauty standards than if she did have work done. Lip fillers, natural changes, and makeup aren't some work of the devil. There are people who do actually have problems, but not everyone does.

[–] MacAttak8@lemmy.world 7 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Except she has had surgery?

https://wegotthiscovered.com/celebrities/what-happened-to-erin-moriarty-erin-moriartys-plastic-surgery-explained/

https://www.screengeek.net/2024/02/02/erin-moriarty-plastic-surgery-accusations-response/

She hasn’t owned up to it but very much did not deny.

Edit: for the record I had no idea there was a whole thing around her a Megan Kelly. Can’t agree with all the hate.

That said, I’m replying to a comment about people having surgery/other medical procedures/drastic makeup etc that causes great changes and she was the first one that popped into my head. She hasn’t denied the surgery. Just said Kelly was spreading false news. But in all her statements she has never denied the surgery from my understanding.

I also don’t agree that it’s “fucking sad” as commenter above me states. She can do whatever she wants it’s her body. Having surgery or not doesn’t matter at all. I still hold that she looks drastically different from 5 years ago regardless of the reason.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

She does. She definitely goes for a different look now.

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

She didn't age out her baby face. That was the surgery.

[–] TotallynotJessica@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

I looked again, and it's even more clear to me that those changes are fat distribution and makeup related. She's always had a narrow nose, her jawline hasn't changed, her brow line, her chin, none of the things that plastic surgery typically alters have been noticeably tweaked! What is different is her makeup, particularly the way she contours her cheeks. She didn't do it in the past because her cheeks were more plump. Her makeup now tries to be more mature, creating contrast where it didn't before.

Dysphoria and learning to analyze bone structure vs fat vs makeup changes has made me pay more attention to these things. Even if she has done work, it isn't drastic and wouldn't be related to what makes her look so different. Faces change and can be changed without surgery. This is like some conspiracy theory body double or transvestiogation shit. Goofy af.

[–] JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyz 13 points 5 months ago

Case is point: the actress that was playing Starlight in "The boys"

[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 39 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Usually I don't notice but it was pretty jarring in Book of Boba Fett. The guy was all dusty living in a desert and then he smiles and his teeth are blindingly white. I was like.. Damn Disney you can't afford the makeup department to dirty those up a bit?

[–] Sir_Fridge@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I had the same problem with the 2018 tomb raider. Lara Crofts dad spends years surviving in a cave on an island and has perfect fucking teeth.

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 4 points 5 months ago

That's one way to cut down on processed sugar.

[–] bane_killgrind@lemmy.ml 2 points 5 months ago

Might not be any bacteria that cause tooth decay.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world 5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

You prefer the yellow teeth snaggletooth actresses?

[–] hondacivic@lem.sabross.xyz 7 points 5 months ago

yellow = anything less white than #FFFFFF ? god damn

[–] Honytawk@lemmy.zip 4 points 5 months ago

You mean the realistic teeth actresses?

You bet your ass.

[–] Lemonparty@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago

I am American and I am not offended by this. I'm not even sure I disagree