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One in three Republican voters would have preferred a different candidate to Donald Trump for the upcoming presidential election.

In March, the former president won enough primary races to secure the Republican nomination in the 2024 presidential election.

However, according to a survey of 1,003 Americans by Canadian polling firm Leger, Trump does not command the full support of his base and 33 percent of this demographic would have preferred another politician. Meanwhile, this proportion is higher (47 percent) among Republican voters aged 18 to 34 years old.

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[–] Westwolf@lemm.ee -5 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Ah, yes, the South and Midwest. Famous centers of American culture production. I was, of course, referring to Los Angeles and New York, which are the major cultural meccas of America. Hollywood, Broadway, Madison Avenue, the major labels, the major publishers, the major networks, etc. It's funny that you accuse me of being a foreigner when you don't know that you just listed the two regions infamously referred to as "flyover country" by the elites who actually shape American culture.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you’re equating culture with movies and . . . Broadway? Then, uh, yeah I guess? To a large extent movies and Broadway and televised advertisement appeal to and thus reflect some liberal positions, sure. In a necessarily very non-threatening, centrist kind of way.

But that manufactured media of movies, tv, Broadway shows and the rest is an input to the actual culture in which humans usually live, and it ain’t liberal in a lot of the swing states. Turns out, there’s plenty not-liberal movies, tv, and . . . okay maybe not Broadway, ya got me there.

Liberal elite media establishment - thats some Russia Today language, man. Or Fox News. Same thing, I guess.

Also the south is where all the music came from, and the midwest made it possible. So, culture production ftw.

[–] Westwolf@lemm.ee -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

If you’re equating culture with movies and . . . Broadway?

"Culture is a complex and multifaceted concept that encompasses the beliefs, behaviors, values, customs, symbols, language, and artifacts that are shared by a group of people. It shapes their worldview, influences their social practices, and provides a framework for understanding their environment and interactions with others. Culture is both dynamic and adaptive, evolving over time as societies change and individuals contribute new ideas and practices. It is transmitted from generation to generation through socialization, education, and communication, and it plays a critical role in shaping individual and collective identities.

Cultural production refers to the processes and activities involved in creating, disseminating, and perpetuating cultural content such as art, literature, music, film, fashion, and other forms of expressive and symbolic materials. This encompasses not only the creative acts themselves but also the economic, social, and institutional frameworks that support and distribute these cultural products.

The cultural elite, on the other hand, consists of individuals and groups who hold significant influence and authority within the cultural sphere, often shaping trends, tastes, and norms. These elites typically include prominent artists, intellectuals, critics, curators, media moguls, and others who have the power to determine what cultural products gain prominence and how they are perceived by the broader public."

The above was written by Chat.GPT. Just in case you think I'm making up terms.

The cultural elite in America, who shape the mainstream culture, have very liberal/progressive values and use their position to push those values on Americans. This is then reinforced through the public education system, including state universities, which are also liberal institutions.

In a necessarily very non-threatening, centrist kind of way.

There is no "centrist" position in the culture war. The left has embraced queer theory as central to its cultural values, and queer theory is necessarily completely and totally opposed to the traditional Christian values that have been the bedrock of Western civilization for 1600 years. The one must necessarily destroy the other.

Liberal elite media establishment - thats some Russia Today language, man. Or Fox News. Same thing, I guess.

This is a non-argument, just an attempt at poisoning the well. "The establishment" refers to the dominant group or elite who hold power and influence in a society, typically maintaining the status quo and resisting significant changes. There's no point in denying that a liberal media establishment exists. Fox News would be part of the conservative media establishment -- hell, Fox News practically defines the conservative media establishment, with the Daily Wire and a network of podcasts defining conservative media counterculture. The liberal media counterculture would be things like The Young Turks, Hasan Piker, The Hill, etc.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The above was written by Chat.GPT. Just in case you think I'm making up terms.

lol. Glad I didn’t read it. Gonna leave you to it now.

[–] Westwolf@lemm.ee -4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I’m not the one getting a phrase generator to write my arguments then accusing the other of being a non participant.

[–] Westwolf@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I didn't have Chat.GPT write my arguments. I had it provide the conventional definition for the terms I was using because you, like all liberal/progressives in 2024, won't actually argue the point, You're just be pedantic and argue definitions. Or make other excuses. It's pointless trying to engage with liberal/progressives. None of you understand anything about your own positions, none of you can argue of defend your positions, all you people can do is make up excuses why you don't have to engage in real arguments while declaring yourselves "on the right side of history" and calling everyone who has a different opinion a stupid, thoughtless bigot.

Because that's what you are, a thoughtless bigot, incapable of making real arguments, because your entire worldview is founded on emotion and indoctrination.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

You agree that defining terms is important to the argument - and then you get your definitions from ChatGPT? That’s ridiculous.

you, like all liberal/progressives in 2024, won't actually argue the point, You're just be pedantic and argue definitions.

You’re just being pedantic. See, “being” is the present participle, you’ve mistakenly used the infinitive form of be which would require a modal such as will, can, would, could, etc.

Just kidding. Okay, so what’s your “real argument” and if you’re not a “liberal/progressive”, what are you?

Assuming your “real argument” is “the media is liberal” then we need two definitions to start: media and liberal. If you want to have that argument, get the definitions you want from the dictionary. Merriam-Webster or OED are fine, others might work, depending.

Because that's what you are, a thoughtless bigot, incapable of making real arguments, because your entire worldview is founded on emotion and indoctrination.

Ha! Prove it. Make your argument, your thesis statement, starting with a real definition, not some ChatGPT spew.

[–] Objection@lemmy.ml 1 points 5 months ago

There is no “centrist” position in the culture war. The left has embraced queer theory as central to its cultural values, and queer theory is necessarily completely and totally opposed to the traditional Christian values that have been the bedrock of Western civilization for 1600 years. The one must necessarily destroy the other.

Hmm.