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Just download Signal. Cross platform, verifably E2E, and verifiably no data collected by Open Whisper (as per their submission in a lawsuit). Also, one of the authors/architects of Signal occasionally trolls the companies that provide mobile spyware.
How does Signal communicate with non signal users?
99% of the people I txt with would never use Signal...
It doesn't.
Matrix does tho
Doors matrix offer any benefits, if no one else you know uses it?
I looked it up, I'm confused. I can't find any matrix app.
Just something about an introperability spec. With cool features but still....
Yes. Interop outside of matrix, thanks to bridges.
WDYM you can't find any? Are you searching for a matrix client for a light bulb? Or client for a fridge?
Jokes aside for PCs and phones' official client is Element, it can be used in browser or installed locally anywhere(Electron, duh). If you prefer something more native, then you can choose nheko for PC.
EDIT: you can get Element in F-Droid
EDIT2: apparently Thunderbird supports matrix too. Well, Thunderbird supported federated protocols since the beginning.
Exactly you said "matrix" like it's an app itself
I'll play with Element this weekend, but so far I'm seeing exactly zero benefits your average person. Sure it might be interesting if you have a mostly techy group that will install stuff.
This discussion is reminiscence of the "Linux" on the desktop one... (And why Linux still only has what? 1-2% market share)
I tried using signal but I had a lot of problems with it. I wouldn't get my messages. The people I messaged didn't get my messages. There was an emergency and someone couldn't get ahold of me when they really needed to. After that I deleted signal and moved on. That's just my experience. Yours could be different.
Was this on Android?
Yes and to be fair it was a long time ago.
I managed to move a big portion of my friends and groups over to signal and quite a few Android users initially had notification issues that were fixed by updates. Maybe give it another chance.
No, I moved some of my friends and family over to signal and they all left after our issues. Now that it doesn't even have SMS and no one I know uses it there isn't any incentive for me to go back.
Fair enough.
Signal servers do not allow federation. Use Matrix instead.
Imessage app is also backwards compatible to sms from what I understand so you can still old style txt with everyone that has a phone