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One in three Republican voters would have preferred a different candidate to Donald Trump for the upcoming presidential election.

In March, the former president won enough primary races to secure the Republican nomination in the 2024 presidential election.

However, according to a survey of 1,003 Americans by Canadian polling firm Leger, Trump does not command the full support of his base and 33 percent of this demographic would have preferred another politician. Meanwhile, this proportion is higher (47 percent) among Republican voters aged 18 to 34 years old.

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[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 15 points 5 months ago (4 children)

The whole Democrat approach has been “we aren’t donald trump” for the last 8 years.

Stopped right there because it's obvious that this whole post won't be rooted in reality. Biden has almost gone out of his way to avoid mentioning trump. Not that he hasn't at all, but he has focused primarily on his accomplishments.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 6 points 5 months ago

Absolutley correct. Let's watch those downvotes pour in from the tankie brigade.

Idiots to the left of me Fascists to the right Here I am stuck in the middle with you

Democrats have been funding the most extremist and crazy of their opponents in political races for years now because it's a lot easier to run on the policy of "At least I'm not that guy" than it is to actually convince people to vote for you based on your policies and agenda. Hell, some lady wrote a book about how she did it to win a seat, only to lose to that same guy in the very next election.

It's one of the oldest and most effective campaign strategies there is, but it keeps biting Democrats in the ass and they keep trying it anyways. Democrats seem to think that moderate Republicans will vote for them over the extremist candidate, but Republicans don't care about who the candidate is so long as they're a Republican.

[–] Westwolf@lemm.ee -5 points 5 months ago (2 children)

Biden has almost gone out of his way to avoid mentioning Trump.

Unless you want to pretend that Joe Biden is the whole of the Democrats, that hardly seems relevant. As a counter example, this writer for the San Francisco Chronicle seems to think Biden is running on "at least he's not Trump."

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Unless you want to pretend that Joe Biden is the whole of the Democrats, that hardly seems relevant.

In a presidential election? Uh, yeah. It's relevant. Ok? Ok.

[–] Westwolf@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

No, it's really not. In any election, there are a multitude of voices on either side. Joe Biden isn't the only person in America carrying water for Joe Biden. That's just absurd. Would you say the same about Donald Trump? The whole liberal media establishment is backing Joe Biden, and a lot of them are using the "anyone but Trump" argument. I was convinced to vote for both HRC and Biden by exactly that reasoning. It's just ridiculous to pretend that isn't an argument being made by Democrats.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The whole liberal media establishment is backing Joe Biden

Yeah that danged liberal media establishment

[–] Westwolf@lemm.ee -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Sarcasm is a poor substitute for thinking. Taken literally, you appear to be agreeing with me. Your tone suggests otherwise. But what are you actually saying? That there is no such thing as the liberal media establishment? That would be absurd. MSNBC, The View, etc. all definitely exist. So then what can you possibly mean? And why obscure your point behind sarcasm?

Could it be because you don't actually have a point? I think it just might be.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

“The liberal media establishment” is a right-wing meme pushed by fox news, talk radio, and, yes, Russia Today for almost thirty years now.

The “media establishment” such as it can be recognized as singular, and with specific regard to political reporting, is conservative. Not liberal.

Broadway, is liberal. Except for maybe Spider-man: Turn Off the Dark. Or Cats. But anyway.

Sarcasm is the inevitable result of hearing right-wing talking points unendingly.

[–] Westwolf@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The “media establishment” such as it can be recognized as singular, and with specific regard to political reporting, is conservative. Not liberal.

lol. Who told you that? The liberal media establishment? In a UCLA study of the 20 major media outlets, 18 scored left of center, with CBS’ Evening News, The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal. Only Fox News’ Special Report and The Washington Times scored to the right of the average U.S. voter.

Sarcasm is the inevitable result of hearing right-wing talking points unendingly.

No, you're sarcastic because you're absolutely terrible at making arguments, you don't actually understand your position, and you're a self-righteous bigot who thinks you're so intellectually superior to anyone with a different worldview that you don't even have to bother to actually engage, you can just mock, deride and dismiss. You're an NPC. That is exactly how NPCs act.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

with CBS’ Evening News, The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times ranking second, third and fourth most liberal behind the news pages of The Wall Street Journal.

The WSJ is the most left of center of all of them? Really. You totally buy that don’t you. That’s - yeah. Wow.

No, you're sarcastic because you're absolutely terrible at making arguments, you don't actually understand your position, and you're a self-righteous bigot who thinks you're so intellectually superior to anyone with a different worldview that you don't even have to bother to actually engage, you can just mock, deride and dismiss. You're an NPC. That is exactly how NPCs act.

I disagree. And your understanding of an NPC comes from tankie 4chan world which just cements the impression that you’re a kid who is in the stage of knowing everything and will get fooled again.

Everybody goes through it; growing up is a difficult and thankless task that takes way too long. Hopefully you’ll get to do things you like doing with people you like soon. I’m guessing you wouldn’t appreciate some rando you think you’ve been arguing with saying good luck, so y’know. Uh. Live long and prosper? In a good way, that is.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Well, considering he is the de factor leader of the Democratic party right now, it's enough to point out that it is not "the whole democratic approach."

Oh and look you found someone who shares your opinion. But not even really because they aren't saying it's their whole strategy, but a pitch that doesn't work, nor certainly it's not referring to the entire last 8 years.

[–] Westwolf@lemm.ee -3 points 5 months ago

I think OP was obviously being hyperbolic and didn't mean that it was literally the entirety of their strategy, but if you want to claim victory through pedantry, you do you.