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Spotify CEO Daniel Ek sparked an online backlash after a social media post in which he said the cost of creating "content" is "close to zero".

The boss of the streaming giant said in a post on X: "Today, with the cost of creating content being close to zero, people can share an incredible amount of content. This has sparked my curiosity about the concept of long shelf life versus short shelf life.

"While much of what we see and hear quickly becomes obsolete, there are timeless ideas or even pieces of music that can remain relevant for decades or even centuries.

"Also, what are we creating now that will still be valued and discussed hundreds or thousands of years from today?"

Music fans and musicians were quick to call Ek out, with one user, composer Tim Prebble, saying: "Music will still be valued in a hundred years. Spotify won't. It will only be remembered as a bad example of a parasitic tool for extracting value from other peoples music. (or "content" as some grifters like to call it)."

Musicians weighed in too, with Primal Scream bassist Simone Marie Butler saying: "Fuck off you out of touch billionaire."

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[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 31 points 5 months ago (3 children)

I know I say this a lot but Bandcamp is very good for some usage patterns.

I buy about one album a month for $10. Over the past four years, I now have accumulated a pretty decent library of music that's mine to keep forever.

They do recommendations and articles that are (or feel like they are) written by real people.

Renting music kind of sucks.

[–] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (2 children)

I like what Bandcamp does, but I don't necessarily want to have to download every song/album I buy off there and store it on my phone, or open the app and manually select a song or album one at a time to listen to.

I wish there was a way to build playlists, or even a full featured streaming service similar to what Spotify offers that would pay artists a respectable cut for streaming but not necessarily purchasing albums.

It would be nice to have that option but I suppose there's probably arguments against it, I'm not really that familiar with all the pros and cons from the artists' perspective. Even just a song radio type option like Spotify has would be great, because I do find a fair bit of new music that way.

Also, in case people aren't aware, Spotify was sold to Epic games a few years ago, and they sold it on to a music licensing company who then laid off 16% of Bandcamp's employees. So I'm not sure how much longer it's going to be a good place for indie musicians.I guess we'll see though.

[–] jjjalljs@ttrpg.network 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

They do let you make a playlist now, but only in the app. I imagine it's something they were working on that didn't get finished because of the layoffs. I'm real nervous that their new owners are going to shit it all up.

They do have like radio programs, and I think you can have it just play stuff from the music feed. I'm a little more album focused and intentional (ie: I want to listen to X, never a shuffle) so I haven't needed much more than what they have.

[–] gwildors_gill_slits@lemmy.ca 2 points 5 months ago

Oh, that's cool then. I'll have to go back and take a look as I hardly use the app.

I guess if the new company fucks it up (which lets face it, is a given) at least you get to keep the music you've already bought which is more than you can say for Spotify.

[–] archomrade@midwest.social 1 points 5 months ago

If you are on any level tech savvy, you cam self-host your library on an app on your computer and use a client like symphoniam to play it.

It's not hard to find a client that let's you do all the same things as Spotify

[–] franklin@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just gave Bandcamp a look and was able to find some stuff that I wasn't able to find anywhere else and got a chance to support the artist so that was pretty cool thanks.

[–] librejoe@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Bandcamp ftw. Love the platform. And I can get my music in flac!

[–] vividspecter@lemm.ee 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Even though I don't buy that many bandcamp albums, I do feel better about giving some obscure artist 10+ USD instead of pennies being spread amongst 1000s of artists (and much of that being sucked up by Spotify et al and major record companies).