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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 9 points 4 months ago (4 children)

In what ways are you benefiting from a bevy of factually dubious query responses?

[–] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 10 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Can absolutely never blindly trust the hallucinating plagiarism machine.

It's great where either facts don't matter or you're personally in a position to vet all of its “factual” output 100%. Text revision, prompting for additional perspectives, prompting to challenge beliefs and identify gaps. Reformatting, quick and easy data extraction, outlining, brainstorming.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 2 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Reformatting and outlining as long as you go over and revise it again anyway, seemingly making that moot.

Data extraction as long as you don't care if the data is mangled.

Brainstorming is a good one, since off-the-wall ideas can be useful in that context.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 4 points 4 months ago (2 children)

In most cases I've seen AI used, the person spends as much time correcting it than they would if they just did the work without AI. So maybe it makes you feel more productive because a bunch of stuff happens all at once, but at least for text generation, I think it's more of a placebo.

[–] sudoreboot@slrpnk.net 3 points 4 months ago

It can at least get one unstuck, past an indecision paralysis, or give an outline of an idea. It can also be useful for searching though data.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

If all I want is something blatantly false or legible yet nonsensical, like a modern lorem ipsum, it's a real time-saver.

[–] sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works 0 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Why not just use lorem ipsum? It's just a copy/paste, and without the liability of having false information if you forget to proofread it.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

I guess ChatGPT is just completely useless, then.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 3 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (1 children)

This question betrays either your non-use or misuse of the products available. You're either just reading the headlines of the screw-ups or you're just bad at using the tool.

To directly answer your question:

  • Quick scripts in a variety of languages. Tested before being used on real data/systems.
  • Creating visual graphs of data in python and Jupyter notebooks with no prior knowledge of python itself or the tools it's running. In this case, I was able to update the way I wanted it to look in natural language, have it suggest code changes, and immediately try them in the notebook with great results.
  • Improving the sentiment of correspondence. Proofread before sending. It has better grammar and flow than a surprising number of correspondences I've come across at work. Sure, English may be their second language but it doesn't change the fact.
  • Quickly finding documentation pertaining to the query which, yes, you need to go read to verify any answers any LLM provides. Anyone using it regularly should know this by now.
  • Quick "do this in command line. What options are required" which is then immediately tested.
  • In one case, a news story was referenced in passing in a podcast I listen to. It stuck with me days later and I wanted to find actual articles written about it. I was able to describe what I was looking for in natural language and included as many details as I could remember and asked it to find articles for me. I found exactly what I was after.

But were you actually looking for a real response to your question?

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

It's worse at all programming tasks except boilerplate, especially with its tendency to inject booby traps. Not knowing how to use the programming language it emits becomes a significant problem.

Comparing a language model to an idiot is unfair to the idiot.

A normal search engine works for everything else.

Any well-defined query I've ever made of an LLM has resulted in hilariously bad results, but I suppose I was expecting it to do something that I couldn't already do better myself.

[–] capital@lemmy.world 4 points 4 months ago

I'm a systems administrator, not a programmer. Like I said, quick scripts. An LLM could probably parse my comment better than you, evidently.

Comparing a language model to an idiot is unfair to the idiot.

Oof.. Was this in reply to my bit about better grammar and ESL individuals?

A normal search engine works for everything else.

Fuck no. Especially the python visualization point.

Any well-defined query I’ve ever made of an LLM has resulted in hilariously bad results, but I suppose I was expecting it to do something that I couldn’t already do better myself.

I suppose you're just a god among men then. For the rest of us, it's useful and you've been given plenty of good answers to your disingenuous question.

[–] kogasa@programming.dev 3 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I don't really query, but it's good enough at code generation to be occasionally useful. If it can spit out 100 lines of code that is generally reasonable, it's faster to adjust the generated code than to write it all from scratch. More generally, it's good for generating responses whose content and structure are easy to verify (like a question you already know the answer to), with the value being in the time saved rather than the content itself.

[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world -2 points 4 months ago

It's good at regurgitating boilerplate, from what I've gathered.