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[–] Forester@yiffit.net 8 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (21 children)
12.95 ¢/kWh to	13.60 ¢/kWh.

I think that's a fair price for cleaner air

I also think there are proven better reactor designs that are far cheaper.

https://www.eia.gov/electricity/monthly/epm_table_grapher.php?t=table_5_06_a

[–] silence7@slrpnk.net 13 points 5 months ago (20 children)

Sadly not. There are unproven ones which might be, but the US nuclear industry has a substantial history of coming in really really expensive.

The reason electricity in most places is cheaper are:

  • Nuclear was built a long time ago, so the reactors are paid for already
  • Electricity is generated using methods other than nuclear
[–] Forester@yiffit.net -4 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (18 children)

The US Navy has had functional Small modular reactor designs mostly PWR designs since the 1960s in the 5mw to 500mw range with no major failures yet.

[–] JGcEowt4YXuUtkBUGHoN@slrpnk.net 17 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The problem is that none of these designs have ever been used to power the grid. Every nuclear project in the recent past has blown by cost and time estimates. Wind and solar are not only cheaper than nukes, they can also be installed much quicker and predictably. Nukes have a place, but we need clean energy now.

[–] halcyoncmdr@lemmy.world -3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Wind and solar are great, but they cannot provide consistent 24 hours base load production. Even with massive battery farms, they cannot replace bas load consistently.

That's where nuclear needs to be, replacing the base load production currently being handled via coal and natural gas.

[–] JGcEowt4YXuUtkBUGHoN@slrpnk.net 3 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

The US at least already has enough nuclear to handle base loads when solar and wind are unavailable. Nukes in some contexts are needed, but I believe we have 30% or so nukes in the US. Diverting resources to new nukes is a waste when we could be making carbon fuels unprofitable soon by investing in solar and wind.

[–] HelixDab2@lemm.ee 1 points 5 months ago

But are they in the right places? There's always loss in power transmission, so you can't use reactors that are in, say, Illinois, to make up for grid deficits in Alabama (or, not directly). And Texas, being a special snowflake, isn't tied into the national grid, so they always need their own systems.

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