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edit: I have changed my title to match the new NYTimes headline. Sorry about the all caps, I guess they are really excited about this lol

Also shoutout to @SayJess@lemmy.blahaj.zone who shared a gift article link in the comments. I hope you don't mind but I kinda stole it and updated the post

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[–] snooggums@midwest.social 162 points 5 months ago (4 children)
[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 118 points 5 months ago (2 children)
[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 41 points 5 months ago (5 children)

God damn it, don't take my job away from me!

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 32 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Today we're all flying high, Squid

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 26 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I was and then I got out-Rikered!

[–] sudo42@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago)

Speaking of Riker's... Riker's Island is gonna have to make some room!

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 14 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We are all sad trombone players on this blessed day.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 19 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Flummoxed@lemmy.world 3 points 5 months ago

Ugh, I hated that character, but I guess that was the point.

[–] lemmyman@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Speak for yourself

[–] ummthatguy@lemmy.world 11 points 5 months ago

Sorry, couldn't help it. Still, break out the Andorian ale!

[–] ripcord@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago

Hey, you stole it in the first place.

[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 75 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Translation: republicans rigged 2016 election to usurp power, stole 3 Supreme Court seats, passed illegitimate tax cuts for ultra rich, and committed violent insurrection when public legitimately tried to remove them from power.

Every. Single. Republican. Is. Guilty. By. Association.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 14 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

That’s completely incorrect.

Trump was convicted of 34 counts of falsifying business records. These were the charges in the NY “hush money” trial only.

Here’s a handy tracker for the other cases from the Associated Press.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 29 points 5 months ago (1 children)

falsifying business records

To influence the outcome of the 2016 election.

He didn't decisively win, it's not inaccurate to deduce from this conviction that the 2016 election was stolen

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world -4 points 5 months ago (3 children)

It’s true that the contents of this trial can be used for the arguments of the prosecution in the Federal and Georgia election trials, but he was not convicted of any crime other than falsifying business records.

Trump was convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records, a class E felony that is punishable by a fine, probation or up to four years in prison per count.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-prison-hush-money-trial-verdict-rcna153963

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 8 points 5 months ago (1 children)

according to The Guardian, for it to be considered a felony charge they had to prove that Trump did it with the intent to commit another crime; The other crime being a New York state law that says it is illegal for “any two or more persons who conspire to promote or prevent the election of any person to a public office by unlawful means”

So the election interference charge form part of the existing charges without being separate charges in and of themselves

[–] aphlamingphoenix@lemm.ee 4 points 5 months ago

The main argument from prosecution to this end was that the encounter happened in 2006 (ish, I might be off) but the hush money wasn't an issue until the election campaign. Therefore, they argued, it was paid (and covered up with false business records) to influence the election.

[–] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 months ago

but he was not convicted of any crime other than falsifying business records.

Cool, but irrelevant as nobody was talking about what laws were technically broken, they were pointing out what being guilty of that means in reality

[–] EvacuateSoul@lemmy.world 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)

The felony upcharge requires he falsify in furtherance of another crime, which was argued to be hiding campaign contributions.

[–] disguy_ovahea@lemmy.world 0 points 5 months ago

Yes. He used campaign funds to pay Cohen for his role as a personal attorney, but the payments were actually reimbursement for Cohen’s initially laid out hush money to Daniels.

All I said was he wasn’t charged with it. It’s absolutely going to be used to address his character in the other cases, but they may not get heard until after November at this rate.

The Federal election is postponed until SCOTUS rules on immunity. The Georgia election is postponed until the state Senate investigates Fani Willis, and the documents case is postponed indefinitely.

I’m surprised so many people think that this proves he’s guilty for all of the cases. We all knew he was before this trial even started. This legally only proves he’s guilty of fraud until he begins another trial.

[–] The_Picard_Maneuver@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago (3 children)

So what happens now?

Fines? Community service? Jail? Nothing?

[–] sar1n@infosec.pub 35 points 5 months ago (2 children)

He'll get 34 slaps on the wrist then become our president for a term that doesn't end until he dies

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 6 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (3 children)

34 felonies?

Good one. There will be riots in the fucking streets lmao

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 20 points 5 months ago (1 children)

37?

Hey, try not to commit any crimes on your way to the parking lot!

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 4 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)

I just can't see the number 37 without thinking of Clerks.

[–] Flummoxed@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

37! When I kiss you I taste 37 other dicks!

[–] grue@lemmy.world 16 points 5 months ago

Me since 2017:

[–] sar1n@infosec.pub 1 points 5 months ago (2 children)

We'll come back here in a few years and see which one of us is right

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 3 points 5 months ago (1 children)

Want to put some money on it? You take tRump, I'll take Biden. How much?

[–] Flummoxed@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago* (last edited 5 months ago) (1 children)

Oh! Not so willing to take up that bet at this juncture??

Edit:that was for sarln: answer, bro.

[–] InternetUser2012@midwest.social 2 points 5 months ago (1 children)
[–] Flummoxed@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Yeah. SAD. Tagging. For future reference.

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

If you’re that dedicated to proving a point, I’m concerned for you.

[–] sar1n@infosec.pub -1 points 5 months ago (1 children)

It was an admission that you might be right but go off, dude

[–] stevedidwhat_infosec@infosec.pub 3 points 5 months ago

Either way man, going back to a post from 3+ years ago isn’t exactly ‘normal’ imo haha

Not everything is an attack

[–] littlebluespark@lemmy.world 1 points 5 months ago

Challenge accepted? 😶

[–] snooggums@midwest.social 20 points 5 months ago

Won't know till July when sentencing happens.

[–] samus12345@lemmy.world 18 points 5 months ago

Most likely, fines that he'll pay for with cultist money.

[–] RagnarokOnline@programming.dev 4 points 5 months ago

What I was looking for - thanks