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The Windows 11 problem (www.spacebar.news)

submitted 1 year ago by corbin@infosec.pub to c/technology@lemmy.world

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[–] kubica@kbin.social 58 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

I can understand that sometimes hardware needs to be deprecated, but windows 11 is trying to ditch hardware that is still quite new. And with all the chip problems and expenses it has not been so feasible to "just" get something more up to date.

If I'm going to buy something with the same money that I bought what I have now I'm going to end with about the same pefromance of what I have.

[–] tobbue@feddit.de 10 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah the hardware I'm running can easily run cyberpunk and any other modern game with satisfying FPS. Yet, it has no 8th gen CPU so I'm not able to upgrade. If I would upgrade my CPU just for win 11 I would have to replace my mainboard and then my GPU would bottleneck which would be, well, sad, so I would feel like I need to upgrade it too ... And well, we know where this leads. I'm just not in for this ride just for Windows 11. I already use Linux on a different drive and prepare to fully switch to Linux. It's just for gaming that I still use Windows and I feel like Linux could really "profit" from Microsofts decision to ditch Windows 10 under this conditions.

[–] QuaternionsRock@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Most of those requirements are, to quote Captain Barbosa, “more what you’d call guidelines than actual rules.” Registry hacks can bypass the more specific CPU requirements and the TPM check, allowing older PCs to run Windows 11. That’s how I upgraded my gaming PC to Windows 11, which has a first-gen Ryzen CPU (just barely missing the Ryzen 2000 minimum), and it runs Windows 11 just as well as Windows 10. Maybe those hacked installations of Windows 11 will stop working at some point, or a future Windows 12 update will make those requirements actually required, but so far Microsoft hasn’t given any indication that will happen.

I found this part of the article interesting; it’s the first time I’m hearing about it. It’s nice to know that my old desktop won’t be stuck on Windows 10 once it’s deprecated, although it’s also… fucking ridiculous, to say the least. If it weren’t for two programs that WINE/proton can’t run, I’d have switched it over to Linux years ago.

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Microsoft even had to carve out exceptions for its own hardware: the 2018 Surface Studio 2, which was priced at up to almost $5,000, nearly didn’t get Windows 11 because it had a 7th-gen Intel CPU. It was later added to the compatibility list.

Jesus fucking Christ Microsoft

[–] hperrin@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Yep. I can literally buy brand new hardware that doesn’t run Windows 11 without an extra purchase (TPM module).