Working with aggressor and commiting war crimes in Donbas wasn’t justification? All the Nazis (who want to murder Russians and were in Donbas) weren’t justification? Jesus fuck

[–] 520@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Working with aggressor and commiting war crimes in Donbas wasn’t justification?

What war crimes were these? It's not like there was a war to begin with until Russia initiated one.

As for working with aggressors, would this be getting friendly with the EU and NATO? Gee, dunno why they'd want that kind of protection /s

All the Nazis (who want to murder Russians and were in Donbas) weren’t justification?

Every country has neonazis. Russia has neonazis. Should someone go and invade Russia then?

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Are there pictures of Putin clapping for an SS member?

And are you actually denying Ukraine’s murder of Donbas civilians? If so, go fuck yourself

[–] 520@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Zelensky didn't know who the fuck this guy was and neither did the Canadian House Speaker who invited him, which is why the latter resigned after the incident.

https://www.npr.org/2023/09/27/1201951754/canadas-house-speaker-steps-down-after-inviting-nazi-veteran-parliament

And are you actually denying Ukraine’s murder of Donbas civilians?

What murders? Do you have anything other than baseless claims? Links, maybe? I seem to be the only one posting proof of my claims here, feels a bit one sided.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Ah yes, you have provided no proof in reality. None at all

Zelensky (and you and everyone else) knows what it means to fight agaisnt the USSR in WW2. Everyone knows what that means and it was obvious that he was a Nazi. If you genuinely think he didn’t know, he must be the least reasonable person in the world.

So you are essentially denying war crimes agaisnt Donbas civilians. If you don’t know about them, I advise you to stop speaking on them

[–] 520@kbin.social 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

Ah yes, you have provided no proof in reality.

I've provided links to journalistic reports. You've provided nothing but 'trust me bro'.

Zelensky (and you and everyone else) knows what it means to fight agaisnt the USSR in WW2.

You do know there was a few years in early WW2 where the USSR was working with the Nazis, right? And fighting its own war with Finland? (the winter war) And annexations of the Baltic States and Romania?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_World_War_II

Fighting against the USSR could mean that you fought for any of the above nations. Naziism wasn't the only thing to have happened during ww2, you know.

So you are essentially denying war crimes agaisnt Donbas civilians. If you don’t know about them, I advise you to stop speaking on them

Have you considered providing sources? Or literally anything other than just 'trust me bro'.

Your knowledge on Russian WW2 history is quite...lacking, so I'm sure you'll understand why I don't take your word for it.

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

The USSR had never worked with Germany beyond that of the rest of the world and worked far less than countries like the UK. To claim otherwise is ridiculous. Finland was allied with the Nazis and was the aggressor agaisnt the USSR. Maybe you could bring that up if Hunka was Finish or from the Baltics. He wasn’t. He was Ukrainian and that was specificed. Any Ukrainian who fought against the USSR during WW2 must have been a Banderite

[–] 520@kbin.social 0 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

The USSR had never worked with Germany beyond that of the rest of the world and worked far less than countries like the UK. To claim otherwise is ridiculous.

Hahahaha. Oh how very wrong you are.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soviet_Union_in_World_War_II

On 23 August 1939 the Soviet Union signed a non-aggression pact with Germany which included a secret protocol that divided Eastern Europe into German and Soviet "spheres of influence", anticipating potential "territorial and political rearrangements" of these countries.

They planned with the Nazis to basically divide up Europe.

Finland was allied with the Nazis and was the aggressor agaisnt the USSR.

You mean the same Nazis that the USSR had a non-aggression pact with? The one that wouldn't get broken until 1941, a year after the war with Finland ended?

Also:

The Soviets made several demands, including that Finland cede substantial border territories in exchange for land elsewhere, claiming security reasons – primarily the protection of Leningrad, 32 km (20 mi) from the Finnish border. When Finland refused, the Soviets invaded.

Ummm...pretty sure this makes Russia the aggressor, not Finland.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_War

The Winter War had fuck all to do with the Nazis. Stop making shit up.

Maybe you could bring that up if Hunka was Finish or from the Baltics. He wasn’t. He was Ukrainian and that was specificed.

There were also Ukrainians that fought against both the Soviets and the Nazis. These were known as the Ukrainian Insurgent Army.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army

(Seriously, you should do some actual reading on Russia's history. Interesting stuff.)

[–] rjs001@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Banderite bullshit