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Thousands of children could die after court backs campaign group over GM crop in Philippines, scientists warn

Scientists have warned that a court decision to block the growing of the genetically modified (GM) crop Golden Rice in the Philippines could have catastrophic consequences. Tens of thousands of children could die in the wake of the ruling, they argue.

The Philippines had become the first country – in 2021 – to approve the commercial cultivation of Golden Rice, which was developed to combat vitamin A deficiency, a major cause of disability and death among children in many parts of the world.

But campaigns by Greenpeace and local farmers last month persuaded the country’s court of appeal to overturn that approval and to revoke this. The groups had argued that Golden Rice had not been shown to be safe and the claim was backed by the court, a decision that was hailed as “a monumental win” by Greenpeace.

Many scientists, however, say there is no evidence that Golden Rice is in any way dangerous. More to the point, they argue that it is a lifesaver.

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[–] Terces@lemmy.world 44 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Their concern is not solely based on the gene modification. The impact of introducing a new crop is bigger than that. The golden rice is patented and that often comes with a ton of regulations the local farmers have no control over.

While I wish for there to be a good way to solve the food problem AND find a good use for gene modification, I don't think that this particular instance is it....

[–] QuarterSwede@lemmy.world 28 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

This. Read an article a while back about American farmers getting sued because there was GM crop growing in their fields when they didn’t plant it. It had cross pollinated from neighboring farms. Being able to sue over patented GM crops is just a bad idea.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 15 points 6 months ago (2 children)

The huge difference is who holds the patent. The example you gave involves Monsanto, the patent holder for several GMO crops, and a terrible company that does everything in its power to make money by exploiting people. Golden Rice, however, is patented by the scientists who designed it, who likely only patented it so that a company like Monsanto couldn't just make some similar GMO and patent it instead, using it to exploit people even more.

This same thing happened back when genes themselves were able to be patented; some companies like Myriad Genetics would patent genes like the BRCA gene, a common source of inherited breast cancer predisposition, so that they could charge an arm and a leg for testing. So, researchers and non-profits would patent genes that they found just ensure they could be fairly studied and tested for.

[–] nogooduser@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The huge difference is who holds the patent.

I don’t think that is important really. The big problem is that patents can be sold so the good guy(s) with the patent could turn out to be not as good as we hoped when someone offers them a bucket load of money.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

Well, yes, but that's kinda my point. If you don't patent, you get exploited, like how the discoverers of insulin synthesis decided not to patent, so companies patented similar, but not exact methods, and now it's incredibly expensive. But, as you said, if you do patent, there is still a risk of exploitation if the patent holder sells to an exploitative company. However, that exploitation is still less likely than when not patenting, so I support the practice so long as patenting is still possible.

I worked at a small nonprofit back when genes were still able to be patented; we mostly studied the condition Pseudoxanthoma Elasticum, and held the patents to a few of the genes associated with it. However, we still allowed people to research them freely - we only patented them to prevent a company like Myriad Genetics, who had been patenting genes so that they could sell expensive genetic tests, from patenting it instead. We celebrated when genes were no longer able to be patented; I imagine that the researchers working with golden rice will do the same if we're ever lucky enough for GMO's to no longer be able to be patented.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Relying on a hope that someone will do good is, and always has been, a terrible idea. We need to fix that shit at its core.

[–] Signtist@lemm.ee 7 points 6 months ago

I wholeheartedly agree. I was working for a small genetics nonprofit when they removed the ability to patent genes, and the whole office had a party to celebrate. It was mostly a celebration about freedom to research and test, but we were also very excited to no longer have to deal with having a bunch of patents. Even though we let people research the genes freely, we still had a bunch of paperwork that needed to be done any time someone wanted to do so.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 6 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Oh hey. I didn't realize anyone was still pushing that long since debunked canard.

The guy in question was a lying hack, who purposefully set up his fields next to a farmer who grew the GM crop and then purposefully harvested the crops that were along the connecting edge of the field so he could replant them without having to have bought them. When he was called out on that, he lied and blamed cross-contamination, but there was no way for his subsequent harvest to be 99+% the GM crop from cross-contamination unless he had collected and planted them on purpose.

So, yeah, he was sued. Including by his neighboring farmer for theft.

[–] theacharnian@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Your whole comment is based on the assumption that what that guy did was theft, and morally reprehensible. It fucking isn't though. Intellectual property of the generic material of plants is just capitalist made up bullshit.

[–] SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago

Can I patent my DNA so if I knock someone up I can sue them?

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 2 points 6 months ago

What does intellectual property have to do with stealing crops from your neighbor? In fact, the guy in question was purposefully working for the organic food companies in order to try and have such a lawsuit happen.

The funny thing being that he completely lost the case.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Fuck the neighbor, as long as he didn't harvest the neighbors' crops directly and it came on to his property it's his.

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

He did harvest his neighbors crops directly. He purposefully cut and took crops through the fence bordering the property. He did all of that completely on purpose.

[–] FlowVoid@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The GM crop was Roundup Ready. Unlike non-GM crops, it won't be killed by a Roundup, an herbicide. So unless you are using GM seeds, it would be madness to spray Roundup on your crops.

All of those farmers were sued when they used Roundup on their fields. Why would they do so if they didn't secretly plant Roundup Ready seeds?

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 3 points 6 months ago

And hence why his fields were 99+% GM crops. Him trying to claim cross-contamination after that was laughably dumb.

[–] BigDickEnergy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago

Nah read into it, the guy had planned all-GM and had kicked up a shitstorm with the "cross-pollination" theory to try and get away with it. Unfortunately reality matters in court so he hit sued (Greenpeace never told you that part)

[–] Silverseren@kbin.social 8 points 6 months ago

All plant cultivars are patented, including all organic and heirloom cultivars.

The scientists that developed Golden rice have been distributing it for free via NGOs.

[–] BigDickEnergy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 6 months ago

The question here is whether to give farmers the freedom to choose to grow it - most will continue growing other varieties. Idk what uncontrollable regulations you are referring to, but no regulation will force you to grow something.

I also want to solve the problem and this is a great solution. It's worth enacting it, unless you have a better idea - children have been dying, die right now, and could continue to die if something isn't done.