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[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de -4 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Who do we actually vote for now. We got genocide supporting tories or genocide supporting Tory light in labour.

But it seems if we don’t vote for labour we are helping the tories. Like this isn’t a democracy man.

Edit: Appreciate the downvotes and no comments to justify them.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Nope. Fptp is fucking crap.

But you are correct. 2 evils.

But beyond genocide. One is planing to use culture war blaming and punishing disabled to fund tax cuts.

While the other just refuses to invest in a nation where voters are scared of spending.

There is a clear lesser of the evils. And refusing to vote also favours the incubant party.

I live in a constituency where labour is not the most likely way to remove a tory mp. So other bad options exist. At least one that a.so hates fptp in my area.

But unfortunately you are correct. Our fake democracy forces you to look at the history of your area. And avoid voting for the greater of multiple evils.

[–] dependencyinjection@discuss.tchncs.de 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Thanks for adding some insight. You’re correct in that you just have to pick the least abhorrent party.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 5 points 6 months ago

I'm am going to correct myself a little.

I said not voting favours the incumbent. Currently that is less true then in the past. The principle has always been. People in your area will be more likely to vote for consistency. It is just a human nature thing. We avoid change. So the MP you have now is more likely to win. Unless many people are motivated to change.

This election is pretty unique. Even compared to 97. We have many many voters thinking like you. But outright hate in many tory traditional safe seats. Add the huge change in many borders.

Things are a little less predicable then ever. I'm still not a fan of the don't vote idea. But honestly have less data to challenge the logic.

[–] HumanPenguin@feddit.uk 3 points 6 months ago

Nods.

Wish green was a winnable option in my area.

They are far from great. But at least are a real change in Ideas.

[–] EnderMB@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

This is an unpopular opinion, but vote for who you believe in. If there is a party or candidate that backs your beliefs then you should vote for them. You only need to look at UKIP/Brexit/Reform to see that a small party can have a big impact, even if it's backed by the media and run by bellends.

Wanting your vote to count by voting for a big party is like supporting Man City because you want your support to count...