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I’ve never played a soulslike games because they are a bit intimidating to me. Amy recommendations for soulslikes games to start on or for beginners to the genre?

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[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 8 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Personally, I'd say Sekiro. You need to be good with timing but the experience is much more streamlined. There's no equipment system so you don't have to worry about finding what's good for you, let alone slogging it through the first however many hours to get whatever items get recommended in Top X lists. Also, I find the movement system is much more to my liking. It feels immediate instead of trying to sprint through a field of porridge. However, if porridge is what you're looking for, Sekiro is a poor pick for you.

Lies of P is also a good pick for having tighter movement and QoL upgrades over Souls games though I dare say a lot of fans will want to drag me across the coals for saying that.

[–] Tiefa@lemmy.world 8 points 6 months ago (3 children)

I very much enjoyed Sekiro and it led me to Elden Ring that I then, in turn, did not enjoy at all. haha Sekiro feels much more approachable but it doesn't have the replayability of other Souls games.

[–] visor841@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

Hm, what didn't you enjoy about Elden Ring? I started with Sekiro, finished it, and have moved on to Elden Ring (in co-op tho). I have very much enjoyed both.

[–] Tiefa@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I guess the tuning of the game. With Sekiro there was, for the most part, a general linear path that you did to complete the game. You could go in some different ways but for the most part it was linear. With Elden Ring you can go in any way and as people have said, if you get stuck, go somewhere else and get higher level and go back. But I don't like leaving so I would proceed to get dumpstered over and over and get frustrated which is entirely my own fault. But, in Sekiro it seemed like the difficulty of the encounters were created in regards to where you were in the story and even though they were hard, were better tuned to your character power. I bet co-op would be a ton of fun and could make my play through more enjoyable if I got back into it.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

I'd have to agree with that. Sekiro has a lot of the trimmings of other From games while having a movement system much closer to the standard hack-n-slash adventure game like Assassin's Creed or Ghost of Tsushima most recently.

[–] dsemy@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Sekiro feels much more approachable but it doesn't have the replayability of other Souls games.

Interesting perspective; I actually have double the hours in Sekiro (164) compared to Elden Ring (86) and DS1 (88). And I also didn't really like Elden Ring (though I really wanted to).

[–] Tiefa@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

I guess I assumed Elden Ring would have more replayability due to all the classes you could do playthroughs with.

[–] steal_your_face@lemmy.ml 5 points 6 months ago (3 children)

Elden Ring fans are salty at this comment lol. That does like it’d be better for my play style though.

[–] DebatableRaccoon@lemmy.ca 3 points 6 months ago

I'm pretty used to it at this point. My best friend is a big Souls fan and is one of the many who refers to Elden Ring as the most approachable From game yet as well as Sekiro as possibly the hardest. The comments I'm used to seeing are ones calling X boss the hardest they've ever gone against and those are consistently the easiest for me. Personally, I'm terrible with the bosses that have a wind up for their attacks and make you wait for the timing as opposed to the ones where it's almost pure reflex. If that sounds more your bag then I'd say Sekiro is your thing and you likely won't enjoy DS or ER. Bloodborne is somewhere in the middle, debatably closer to Sekiro though I've seen arguments for both ways.

[–] ZombiFrancis@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Sekiro, like Bloodborne, is different from the Dark Souls series. The mechanics, story, and atmosphere of each are distinct, with Elden Ring falling most closely with the Dark Soul series in mechanics and 'feel'.

Dark Souls 1 has the best atmosphere and environmental storytelling, in my opinion. It really is clear how innovative and influential a game it was.

Sekiro is hard to play from a Dark Souls foundational playstyle. Sekiro players, I find, seem to have an easier time adapting to Dark Souls. So it may very well be a good start for a FromSoft game.

[–] MrBobDobalina@lemmy.ml 3 points 6 months ago

Came to make the same recommendation. It depends on what aspect of the games you find intimidating. Most people recommending Elden Ring will likely be assuming that you mean mechanical difficulty, but in my case, the openness, variety, stat numbers etc of ER are all intimidating.

Sekiro is more approachable in this regard, the way forward is mostly clear, and the mechanics are clearly communicated, so you're just left with practicing them until you're good enough to progress.

I'd say that most people who say Sekiro is one of the hardest fromsoft games probably came from playing souls or Elden Ring and have the extra challenge of unlearning some of the foundations. I hadn't played any, and though Sekiro is hard as hell sometimes, it clicked with me pretty quickly. Completed 3 endings and most of the optional, hardest content so far