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[–] Fades@lemmy.world 46 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

Good, this is a situation in which both sides are both truly disgusting and vile, using people as pawns, shields, etc.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Yeah, for some reason too many people are having difficulty understanding that in this case, yes, the both side argument works quite well. Both Hamas and the Israeli government are horrible with the citizens on both side suffering

[–] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

It's worth clarifying that the Palestinian civilians are not Hamas though. It's also misleading to say they elected them democratically, as the median Palestinian was a literal infant when the last election happened, and nearly half weren't even born.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

I'm counting Palestinian civilians separate from Hamas, just like the Israeli government is t the same as it's people

[–] rhandyrhoads@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Definitely agree. Although I will add that Israel has likely played a large part in radicalizing many members of Hamas and their actions in Palestine have dwarfed the initial Hamas attack, no atrocity should go unpunished.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago

Both points are valid so yeah, both are bad to the point that both groups should be tried by the ICC and be locked away for life, all of them

[–] Treczoks@lemmy.world 7 points 6 months ago

And both sides are equally pissed off being put on the same level as the others.