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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 12 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The position of support for creating a famine (or not giving a shit to stop it) seems to have wider support than just Bibi. This guy's move puts in focus that creating a famine is a war crime, and he's forcing the Israelis players to face that and state their support or lack thereof clearly. Getting rid of Bibi alone might not increase the aid in Gaza. If the other party leaders aren't willing to throw Bibi and Gallant under the bus for this and/or shift gears on aid, then perhaps the Israeli political class is too far gone and the world should increase the pressure till someone gets it and starts telling the Israeli public that what's happening is wrong and is extremely counterproductive for Israel as whole.

Also, some polling shows Bibi's coalition being neck and neck with the alternative so the narrative that Bibi is certain to be ejected by Israel's democracy isn't so solid.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Israel asked for help from Arab countries in providing support in dealing with the humanitarian crisis. They laughed in the Israelis faces.

The problem is too many people are willing to let the Palestinians die in order to win some propaganda war against Israel. I don't feel like anyone really cares about Palestinians. They'd rather Palestinians die so they can have proof Israel is evil.

Joe Biden has built a pier to provide aid. This is more than anyone else has done to prevent famine. But the propaganda says he's "Genocide Joe".

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

What are you talking about.. Arab countries didn't stop food and water going into Gaza, Israel's leadership did.

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca 0 points 6 months ago

They were asked to help distribute food and refused. Just something you're not you seeing in your information silo.

[–] absentbird@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've seen stickers around the town where I live calling him "Jihad Joe" for helping the Palestinians. He gets hate coming and going, meanwhile thousands of tons of aid are reaching the people of Gaza because of him.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)
[–] absentbird@lemm.ee 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

The pier is having trouble getting aid past the Israeli offensive, but over 1000 tons have already been airdropped, and once logistics are worked out for the pier it's expected to deliver 500 tons of aid per day.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

Well, this didn’t age well

Asked whether any of the aid has been delivered to the people of Gaza, Ryder said, “As of today, I do not believe so.”

[–] SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca -5 points 6 months ago (2 children)

I've always said the Pro-Palestine crowd and the MAGAs are basically the same people. Gotta ignore anything that doesn't conform to whichever narrative they've gotten sucked into.

[–] supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz 3 points 6 months ago

I’ve always said the Pro-Palestine crowd and the MAGAs are basically the same people.

Why because you are an ideologically bankrupt centrist that finds it convenient to equate protestors desperately trying to stop a genocide with MAGA heads… who tried to violently overthrow the US government because it wasn’t hateful enough for them?

You aren’t welcome in the progressive coalition if you desire to ignore reality in favor of a “both sides” narrative to the degree you are doing. We are talking about a genocide here and you are saying the people trying to stop it are crazy, violent hateful extremists who are obsessed with hurting trans people for no reason, fucking over women and taking power away from everybody but white men.

[–] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago

“You have to finish up your war. You have to finish it up. You’ve got to get it done,” he said in an interview with Israeli newspaper Israel Hayom. “We’ve got to get to peace. You can’t have this going on, and I will say Israel has to be very careful because you are losing a lot of the world. You are losing a lot of support.”

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