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[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

No one is asking you to care about them.

The question is whether or not you honestly think sending these people to prison for 10 years makes any sense. It's the same thing when some poor black kid gets caught with some weed and goes to jail. I'm not going to lose any sleep over it, and it's easy to point at their actions and say they were "idiots" for doing drugs and carrying it around them, and that they were "flouting the rules" by having a controlled substance. But I also know an injustice when I see one.

And there is precisely zero indication that these people are "flouting the rules." This would actually more likely apply more to the kid with some pot, because they know it's against the law and they likely know they have it on them. Why would you bring a handful of ammo into a country on vacation with no gun or anything? Hell, even if you had a gun, a few rounds isn't going to do much.

You're trying to paint it in the worst possible light. Slow down, take a breath, and think about this rationally and objectively for a second. Does this really solve a problem? Is this a good thing for our society? At least one of these people is a parent, do you really think it's great they lose their parent for 10+ years because of two bullets accidentally left in a bag? I just can't fathom how anyone sees any justice in this. There's no requirement that you think so vengefully.

[–] Adanisi@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

"If you had a gun, a few rounds isn't going to do much"

LMFAO one round is enough to commit murder

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago

LMFAO one round is enough to lose 12 years of your life, instead of you know, scanning, seeing they have one round, pulling them aside, taking it out. Yaknow, like what's done with fluids.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't matter who thinks what. There's a law and it was broken, off you go to jail.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Good thing all laws are ethical, moral and make sense. I imagine everybody on lemmy will agree that laws are the best thing ever that they never break.

[–] Aux@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Having weapons or ammo on you as a civilian is 100% unethical and immoral.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago
[–] jimbolauski@lemm.ee -2 points 6 months ago

This guy fascists

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

yet when we talk about the morality surrounding selling stupid, violent and dangerous people firearms you get laser focused on literal (MISINTERPRETATION) of a 200yr old document. And your stupidity and support of said stupidity literally results in dead kids, by the thousands.

Tell me again about the morality regarding the cult of the bang bang, please.

That's fucking hilarious.

[–] Maalus@lemmy.world -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

"WOULD ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDRIIIIN" argument about someone who loses 12 years of their life and isn't there to raise them after a single round is found in their baggage. Isn't that what police do with potheads? Guess that's justified too

[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

nuanced argument. you upset bro?

how many people do you think they should just forgive when it keeps fucking happening?

https://nypost.com/2024/05/08/world-news/bryan-hagerich-dad-facing-turks-and-caicos-prison-time-for-ammo-charge-says-law-has-unintended-consequences/

Ryan Watson, 40, of Oklahoma, a father of two who was most recently arrested for unknowingly having ammo in his bag on April 12, remains on the island. Both men previously told Fox News Digital that they had the ammo in their bags from prior hunting trips.

Michael Lee Evans, 72, pleaded guilty to having ammunition in his bag on April 24, according to local news outlet the Turks & Caicos Sun. His sentencing hearing is scheduled for June 18.

how many times should this country watch stupid americans try it again and again before someone actually pays consequences?

and how many people do you think our country would forgive?

pfft.

[–] EatATaco@lemm.ee -1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

So law and morality are the same?