There are a lot of tanky posts coming from lemmy.ml. Their whole purpose seems to be to troll and spread their bullshit far and wide. They are nearly as bad as the alt-right. They argue in bad faith and celebrate authoritarian oppression. The beehaw mods might want to consider defederating.

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[–] ptz@dubvee.org 75 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (2 children)

I defederated months ago for exactly why you described. Night and day difference in how enjoyable Lemmy can be.

Like, yes, capitalism is failing us. But jumping into every comment thread and shutting down every conversation that's not advocating for the complete and utter destruction of the current economic model is exhausting. And that's the least toxic reason I chose to block that instance.

At first, I did miss some big FOSS communities that were there, but over time, similar communities elsewhere became more active. Good riddance.

[–] JCPhoenix@beehaw.org 20 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Indeed. I enjoyed the asklemmy community over there, but lately there have been some "questions" posted that clearly have an agenda. Basically begging the question. I'm not saying I'm some free-market, anti-regulation libertarian. Far from it. But like you said, not every post has to be about that, and that we can discuss other things other than the downfall of capitalism. So I unsubscribed from that community, and even considered leaving Lemmy altogether since I feel like those types of posts/comments are so pervasive lately.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 22 points 6 months ago (3 children)

if you were not aware, you can block the instance without de-federation

Blocking the hexbear.net lemmy.ml & lemmygrad.ml will make Lemmy a much better day to day experience

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 28 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Beehaw's still on 0.18.4 and from a post I saw a while back, isn't planning to go beyond that. So user-level instance blocking isn't an option there, unfortunately.

Instance blocking also only blocks posts; you'll still see the users from there in the comments. So it's nice, but doesn't go quite far enough; you still have to block obnoxious accounts manually/individually.

[–] thisbenzingring@lemmy.sdf.org 7 points 6 months ago

Oh, good to know. Thanks

[–] quindraco@lemm.ee 3 points 6 months ago

Yeah, I block anyone from Hexbear without even reading their comments.

[–] SorteKanin@feddit.dk 13 points 6 months ago

Blocking instances is equivalent to blocking all communities on that instance - so that means you'll still see comments from users on that instance and the users on those instances will still have an influence on your feed via voting.

Just pointing out that letting users block instances individually is not necessarily the desired solution.

[–] JCPhoenix@beehaw.org 10 points 6 months ago

Thanks for the reminder; always forget that's an option. Luckily Beehaw already defederated from Hexbear and lemmygrad.

[–] ptz@dubvee.org 21 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

So I unsubscribed from that community, and even considered leaving Lemmy altogether since I feel like those types of posts/comments are so pervasive lately.

I was at that same point back in November/December. Finally just defederated from .ml entirely and started blocking any agenda-pushing accounts in general, and wow, what a difference.

.ml wasn't as bad back when I first started on Lemmy during the Rexodus (most of that was all on grad), but it's definitely become grad-lite since then. My guess is at least a portion of the grad crowd migrated over since it's a commonly defederated instance.

I kinda wish .ml wasn't the official / de-facto flagship instance. I wonder how many people would have joined the Reddit-style corner of the Fediverse but were put off by .ml thinking that's what it's all like.

[–] JCPhoenix@beehaw.org 11 points 6 months ago

I've tried to recommend Beehaw to others, but I don't think I've gotten a single bite. Because when they visit Beehaw, they also see content from the other parts of Lemmy -- both posts and comments -- that Beehaw still federates with, including .ml, and are turned off by a lot of it.

A big part of it is not understanding how the fediverse works, but that's to be expected; it is confusing. But even having heard my explanation, they're often still like, "Meh, I'll just stick with reddit..." because, as you mentioned, first impressions are everything.

[–] HaywardT@lemmy.sdf.org 18 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Yes capitalism is failing us but their belief that forcing everyone into their "ism" will lead to utopia is a disingenuous lie.