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[โ€“] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 3 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She was also an unabashed atheist, which is why she was able to promote the idea of selfishness being good.

What the hell is this non-sequitur?

[โ€“] dingus@lemmy.ml 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (2 children)

Nearly every religion preaches to be giving and kind to those in need. It's absolutely not a non-sequitor to admit that a large number of atheists don't believe there is any guiding morality to the universe and that we have to come to our own conclusions about morals and ethics. Moral relativism is a generally accepted thing among many atheists. This does not mean all atheists are selfish, I would classify most as Humanists. Rand was mostly an outlier.

She was able to promote the idea that selfishness could be good because she didn't ascribe to any religion that defined that as a sin.

[โ€“] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

She was able to promote the idea that selfishness could be good because she didnโ€™t ascribe to any religion that defined that as a sin.

So basically she profited from existing bullshit to promote her own brand of bullshit. That's even worse.

[โ€“] dingus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

It is indeed worse, I agree.

I do think it is odd she was embraced by Christians.

[โ€“] pinkdrunkenelephants@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not an atheist and even to me, that's a really transparent dig at people who believe something you disagree with. You don't need religion to be altruistic as you are implying.

[โ€“] richieadler@lemmy.myserv.one 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm not implying that, the OP was. (Or so I thought. Apparently they are saying that Rand was riding on that idea.)

[โ€“] dingus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I'm a fucking atheist and I think Ayn Rand was a loser sack of shit who leaned on every government assistance she preached against existing.

So yeah, Rand was riding on it. I would like to think most fellow atheists reject her power-worship bullshit wrapped in "Objectivism."

To clarify, I agree with you on every word.