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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/20749204

Another positive step in the right direction for an organization rife with brokenness. There's a lot I don't like about the organization, but this is something a love--a scouting organization open to young women and the lgbtq community. The next step is being inclusive of nonreligious agnostic and atheist youth and leaders. As well as ending the cultural appropriation of Native American peoples.

May this organization continue to build up youth, never allow further violence against youth, and make amends for all the wrongs. There's a lot of good that comes out of organizations like this and I won't discount it even though it's riddled with a dark history.

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[–] wanderer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (1 children)

The UU MOU demonstrates that they still discriminate. Any Christian denomination is automatically acceptable, for atheists they have to pick and choose saying "you're one of the good ones".

If a scout wishes to define god as thermodynamics, BSA accepts it.

OK, that's irrelevant. Those were clearly MY opinions, a demonstration of how I refuse to label things with the term 'god', followed by the rationale for me doing so.

You are using a completely different, contradictory definition.

I am not using any definition of 'god', I am just saying that it has a definition, not any specific one just some definition, otherwise the term would be meaningless. And if I were to label anything 'god' it would be because that thing fulfilled the requirements for this unspecified definition. If I were to label something as 'red' it would be because it fulfills the requirements to be called 'red'. If it did not fit the definition of 'red' I would not apply the label 'red'. In the same way, I would not label something as 'god' unless I thought the label fit. If I were to label something as 'god' it would imply that there was something different about it when compared to something that I would refuse to apply the term 'god' to. And there is nothing that I would be willing to label 'god'.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Gotcha. You're a connoisseur of religious philosophy. You know that it can only be called "god" if it comes from a specific region in France. Every other worldview is "sparkling belief".

[–] wanderer@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Apparently I have to say this again. Those are MY opinions. The goal of me sharing my opinions point out a position that I suspected would not be accepted by the scouts, at least your in interpretation of their rules. Your response was that atheists that did not believe the same as me could be accepted, which was irrelevant to the point. And here you insult me. Congratulations, you have confirmed my suspicions.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 6 months ago

Have a wonderful day.