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Telegram founder and CEO alledges signal has backdoors, they don't provide reproduceible builds, etc. (lemm.ee)

submitted 6 months ago by clot27@lemm.ee to c/privacy@lemmy.ml

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Here's what he said in a post on his telegram channel:

🤫 A story shared by Jack Dorsey, the founder of Twitter, uncovered that the current leaders of Signal, an allegedly “secure” messaging app, are activists used by the US state department for regime change abroad 🥷

🥸 The US government spent $3M to build Signal’s encryption, and today the exact same encryption is implemented in WhatsApp, Facebook Messenger, Google Messages and even Skype. It looks almost as if big tech in the US is not allowed to build its own encryption protocols that would be independent of government interference 🐕‍🦺

🕵️‍♂️ An alarming number of important people I’ve spoken to remarked that their “private” Signal messages had been exploited against them in US courts or media. But whenever somebody raises doubt about their encryption, Signal’s typical response is “we are open source so anyone can verify that everything is all right”. That, however, is a trick 🤡

🕵️‍♂️ Unlike Telegram, Signal doesn’t allow researchers to make sure that their GitHub code is the same code that is used in the Signal app run on users’ iPhones. Signal refused to add reproducible builds for iOS, closing a GitHub request from the community. And WhatsApp doesn’t even publish the code of its apps, so all their talk about “privacy” is an even more obvious circus trick 💤

🛡 Telegram is the only massively popular messaging service that allows everyone to make sure that all of its apps indeed use the same open source code that is published on Github. For the past ten years, Telegram Secret Chats have remained the only popular method of communication that is verifiably private 💪

Original post: https://t.me/durov/274

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[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 22 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I wonder if their recent blog post promoting conspiracy theorists and right-wing people turned away more people from telegram than they expected and now they feel the need to spread FUD against their competitors.

[–] jherazob@beehaw.org 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I missed this one, have a link?

[–] Takios@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is the blog post: https://telegram.org/blog/my-profile-and-15-more
This is a post highlighting the problematic content of the blog post: https://plush.city/@PsyChuan/112336464469767051

Though now that I'm more awake I think it's probably unrelated, I haven't seen this circulated around that much.

[–] rottingleaf@lemmy.zip 6 points 6 months ago

1488 and other Nazi numbers are, eh, just normal jokes in Russia.

But in general yes, I think this is on purpose. Probably want some people think Telegram is kinda counterculture and more secure. It's not secure at all, of course.