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[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 11 points 6 months ago (5 children)

J'ai dû apprendre le français à l'école. L'alternative aurait été le latin. Je déteste tellement cette langue.

You can keep all mistakes I made in that sorry excuse of a garbage language.

[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Tu détestes le français spécifiquement, ou juste le fait d'avoir eu à apprendre une autre langue?

Le français, je peux comprendre un peu, il y a quant même plusieurs spécificités étranges à cette langue. Ce n'est pas pour rien qu'on passe plusieurs années à l'apprendre avant d'éventuellement passer à la littérature. Je crois que les cours d'anglais langue première font cette transition beaucoup plus tôt.

Détester le fait d'avoir eu à apprendre une autre langue, là je ne comprends pas du tout!

[–] ndondo@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Pour les spécificités étrange avez vous un example?

[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 4 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Pour un apprenant anglophone, par exemple:

  • Les objets inanimés genrés
  • Les lettres muettes en fin de mot (s au pluriel, e final, etc)
  • Les différentes façons d'écrire un même son (é, er, et, ai)
  • Les différentes façons de prononcer une même lettre (c, s)
  • L'énorme quantité de conjugaisons de verbes possibles
[–] crapwittyname@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago

T'as oublié la liaison. La putain de liaison de merde fait chier.

[–] JamesStallion@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Le Subjonc.......go fuck yourself

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Tu détestes le français spécifiquement, ou juste le fait d'avoir eu à apprendre une autre langue?

Я ненавижу французский конкретно. Я сожалею, что так и не выучил итальянский должным образом.

Le français, je peux comprendre un peu, il y a quant même plusieurs spécificités étranges à cette langue.

That accoustic dumpster fire shouldn't even be referred to as a language.

Détester le fait d'avoir eu à apprendre une autre langue, là je ne comprends pas du tout!

Außer mangelnder Zeit habe ich kein Problem damit neue Sprachen zu lernen.

[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I guess I have my answer ;) I don't know Russian but I know enough Ukrainian to know you're talking about French and Italian, lol. And I know barely enough German to know you're talking about learning languages (Sprachen).

Not quite sure what you hate accoustically about French, though... The "r" sounds? I guess they're very different from most other languages, but you seem to like German... If you're comparing to Spanish (among others), I guess the overall stressing of sounds in a sentence is pretty different, too.

Also, what kind of French did you have to learn? France has a very different sound from Québec for example... Altough if I look closely I see you're on the sh.itjust.works instance and you mention having to learn it in school, which tends to indicate you're Canadian. I guess hating on French is par for the course, then...

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I guess I have my answer ;) I don't know Russian but I know enough Ukrainian to know you're talking about French and Italian, lol.

I said that I hate French specifically and that I regret never having learned Italian properly. In German I said that I have no problem with learning new languages if it wasn't for lack of time.

Not quite sure what you hate accoustically about French, [...]

Reading and writing French is OK(ish, if I didn't vocalize it in my head). I really hate the sound of that language. It sends shivers down my spine. I think for one thing I prefer harder/rougher sounding languages. Also, I'm an unforgiving person. We were told we can start learning a third language when we are in 7th grade. I was pondering whether to pick up Russian, Italian or Swedish. Then 7th grade comes around and the school's like: Yah, you can choose between French and Latin. Well, fuck you too school. I hate our school system for this (and other reasons) to this day.

but you seem to like German

Being German, I'm kind of stuck with it. Not that I particularly dislike it, though.

If you're comparing to Spanish (among others), I guess the overall stressing of sounds in a sentence is pretty different, too.

I dislike French, the language, not the people. I slightly dislike Spaniards, but not their language. Italian people speak loudly because they talk across the street. Spanish people do that while standing right next to each other. I think I'll never get used to that.

Also, what kind of French did you have to learn?

French French.

[...] which tends to indicate you're Canadian.

Ha! Show me one comment where I apologized ;-)

[–] ebc@lemmy.ca 2 points 6 months ago

Sorry I mistook you for a Canadian. There were just a couple clues pointing in that direction. I totally get you though, loving or hating a language isn't something rational; I used to have a strong dislike for Spanish for pretty irrational reasons.

If you like rougher languages, you should listen to some Québec French, then. There's actually a song about how it sounds really different from France's French: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgiNoNqYXMA

[–] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ironiquement, tu n'as pas fait de fautes, tu as même pensé à l'accent circonflexe à « dû ».

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I always had better grades in French than in English. Which bothered me, because I hated French almost from the start and thought English was/is much more important.

[–] ilost7489@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't know where you are from but where I am in Canada French class is graded quite generously

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago
[–] idefix@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Ok I'm biased but Latin and Greek are so much worse (yes I've been there).

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 3 points 6 months ago

Friend of mine went to a school which fashioned itself as "the old school" (as in historically old school). They learned latin and old greek instead of anything useful. He was furious when he came back from vacation in Greece and he only found one person, an old professor in Greek history, who he could talk to.

[–] VulKendov@reddthat.com 2 points 6 months ago

Yeah but Latin's pretty much a dead language, and the Greeks never spread their "disease" of a language on the scale that the French did

[–] Sylvartas@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Joke's on you, there is no mistake in your comment.

[–] elvith@feddit.de 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Je suis dans ça mème et je ne l'aime pas.

Oui, j'ai appris la langue française à l'école aussi.

Non, je ne veux... sais pas parler français!

[–] _cnt0@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Non, je ne veux... sais pas parler français!

Ну, тогда не надо. Есть много лучших языков.