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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/20749204

Another positive step in the right direction for an organization rife with brokenness. There's a lot I don't like about the organization, but this is something a love--a scouting organization open to young women and the lgbtq community. The next step is being inclusive of nonreligious agnostic and atheist youth and leaders. As well as ending the cultural appropriation of Native American peoples.

May this organization continue to build up youth, never allow further violence against youth, and make amends for all the wrongs. There's a lot of good that comes out of organizations like this and I won't discount it even though it's riddled with a dark history.

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[–] zammy95@lemmy.world 26 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (4 children)

The Scout Law - "A scout is trustworthy, loyal, helpful, friendly, courteous, kind, obedient, cheerful, thrifty, brave, clean, and REVERANT."

Also the scout oath: "On my honor I will do my best to do my duty to God and my country and to obey the Scout Law;....."

[–] dankm@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

In Canada they added a second option. Old: "On my honour; I promise that I will do my best; To do my duty to God and the King;...." New: "On my honour; I promise that I will do my best; To respect my country and my beliefs;...."

[–] Brutticus@lemm.ee 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

At my eagle interview, they asked me which point I would take out of the scout oath, and I said, Reverent

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You should have tried to sneak in "revenant" to see if it gave you the ability to raise the dead.

[–] Brutticus@lemm.ee 2 points 6 months ago (1 children)

you know, Im not gonna fix that lol

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

You didn't mess it up. It just made me laugh thinking of it happening. I may have been reading too many bad horror books lately.

[–] Cethin@lemmy.zip 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

For the scout law, reverant doesn't have anything to do with God necessarily. It is usually used in reference to God, but it could be reverence of nature or other things.

[–] SpaghettiYeti@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago

Exactly what I did to get Eagle.

[–] dojan@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

Ooh. I suppose this is the answer I was looking for, though it still strikes me as rather strange. Was scouts established a very long time ago and did the religious bit just kind of cling on? Is there any type of push for making it secular? Because what little I knew, learning about natural sciences, and getting hands-on experience in various situations, as well as helping out the local communtiy just strikes me as a very positive thing. Squeezing in religion among all that just feels so out of place and foreign to me. It's like one of those "find the odd one out" situations.

[–] Rozz@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago

A lot of people have mentioned that the reverence can be loosely defined and doesn't necessarily specify a certain god, but also a lot of it depends, I'm sure, on which part of the country you are in, which organization charters for you, and the volunteers that are actually part of the organization. Many people have barely had to say what they are reverent to and move on.