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[–] kescusay@lemmy.world 138 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago) (10 children)

What the actual fuck is wrong with Republican politicians? I mean, I already know what's wrong with Republican voters - brainwashing by years of Fox "News" - but the politicians? Are they all literal sociopaths?

[–] MrVilliam@lemmy.world 104 points 6 months ago

No, they're just doing what they're being paid to do by special interest groups aka big business. It's not a bug and it's not a feature; it's the point. Optimal profits this quarter. Every quarter is a new quasi generation of executives who want a good quarter before moving on after x quarters.

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 39 points 6 months ago (3 children)

The philosophy behind conservativism is to stay still. Conserve the status. Do not progress.

[–] barsquid@lemmy.world 32 points 6 months ago (2 children)

But you're describing a standard Dem. Repubs are actively trying to drag us backwards. They are regressives.

[–] skatrek47@sh.itjust.works 13 points 6 months ago (1 children)

This is so infuriating, especially when it’s so easy to show that voting against progressive initiatives also hurts their own constituents…

[–] billiam0202@lemmy.world 22 points 6 months ago

This is so infuriating, especially when it’s so easy to show that voting against progressive initiatives also hurts their own constituents…

"I don't care how much it hurts me, as long as the people I hate are also getting hurt!"

[–] TachyonTele@lemm.ee 5 points 6 months ago

I'm already depressed as it is. Why do you have to do me in like that?

[–] grue@lemmy.world 31 points 6 months ago (2 children)

That's a popular misconception. The philosophy behind conservatism is to perpetuate hierarchy. The ideology was developed by literal monarchists, and when the "divine right" excuse became untenable they moved on to others like racism and capitalism, but the goal remained the same. It only seems like they want to maintain the status quo because the historical status quo was hierarchical, but rest assured: if society were magically egalitarian instead, conservatives would vigorously try to make sweeping, wholesale changes to create a hierarchy from scratch.

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[–] Resonosity@lemmy.world 2 points 6 months ago (2 children)

Interesting insight. Thanks for the correction. Perhaps the choice of lexeme "conservatism" would best be swapped for a neologism like "hierarchism" or something to better describe the principles of the school of thought. Otherwise, I made the connection like OC that conservatism = no change, whether good or bad.

[–] grue@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

Otherwise, I made the connection like OC that conservatism = no change, whether good or bad.

That's exactly what they want you to think. It's one of the more prominent ways in which they launder their ideology to make it seem appealing to more people than just sociopaths. (Or at least, used to, until they went full mask-off under Trump.)

[–] XTL@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

Yes. The term has been kind of redefined in practise from massive misuse. Just like many others.

[–] satanmat@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

Correct.

They are in charge and are going to do everything to keep it that way.

As you said.

[–] evatronic@lemm.ee 22 points 6 months ago

Nothing. They're behaving quite rationally.

You just have to understand that their motivation is not "successful governing" or "making the world better" but rather, "getting more money."

When you view their actions through the lens of self-enrichment, they're behaving quite normally.

[–] Sanctus@lemmy.world 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

You gotta know at this point the system has feedback. Its possible most of them were raised on the same shit their constituents are huffing.

[–] Uranium3006@kbin.social 11 points 6 months ago (1 children)

ever since the tea party and especially trump the inmates are running the asylum

[–] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 8 points 6 months ago

Nah before that was Bush and Cheney getting us into decades long wars in Iraq and Afghanistan because some Saudis attacked us.

[–] AbidanYre@lemmy.world 10 points 6 months ago

It's been so long that the inmates are running the asylum in the GOP these days.

[–] moitoi@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 6 months ago

When you brainwashed for generations, you end with brainwashed in politics. This is just the beginning.

[–] slaacaa@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago

It’s just simple corruption (or lobby, as it’s called in the US), they are saying what the highest bidder asks them to say

[–] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 2 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

Are they all literal sociopaths?

Yes. Just pick one and pay attention to what they do and say for a little while.

[–] freebee@sh.itjust.works 2 points 6 months ago

rustbelting makes voters transition from democrat to republican. you could argue that they actually benefit from declining industry, so of course they're going for it

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 1 points 6 months ago

omg politicians being bad I'm absolutely gobsmacked