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Helldivers 2 went from one of the most beloved Steam games to one of the most hated pretty quickly
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this post was submitted on 03 May 2024
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For anyone who actually cares this was a requirement from the start they paused it due to some issues.
People need to read stuff before buying it.
Yeah but also it's a bullshit requirement. Should be removed imo.
It’s a crossplay mandatory game, if you’re a dick, PSN wants a way to block you. No different than getting VAC banned.
This isn’t steam servers, it’s Sony servers. What do you want?
It doesn't need it for crossplay.
Then VAC ban the steam account since you sold on steam. The game worked fine for months after launch without requiring a PlayStation account and would continue to work fine otherwise.
The most major issue is that BECAUSE they didn't enforce a tiny part of their terms of use that is a dealbreaker for most users, those users will now be unable to refund the game due to steam's "2 hours playtime = no refund" rule
It was required from the start, why are buying something without knowing if it will even run first? Its hilarious the amount of people defending something that’s people’s own stupidity.
Quite the sad reflection of reality unfortunately.
Because if it doesn't run, you won't get 2 hours of playtime and steam will refund it. Stop defending corporate greed on a social media platform DESIGNED to get away from corporate greed.
Abusing a system because you can’t be arsed to read something is an interesting take.
It’s interesting that providing information is always defending some corporation when it doesn’t align with your narrative…..
So let me make a game that will work for exactly 3 hours and break. It's the same concept here. They made the game. It worked for months. Now magically it won't.
How’s it the same? They told everyone you needed psn, it was a restriction when the game came out, it lead to issues, they paused it and are now implementing it again.
A better example would be WoW making the game free for 3 months due to a card charging issue and people getting mad when they say they need to charge again.
It never worked as designed from the start it was broken, so they paused a requirement that was always there, and are now reimplementing it. The other option was to delist the game, but that would make the same people mad for a different issue, it’s a lose/lose situation for everyone.
Anyone who couldn’t read the steam page, or the giant splash screen when you launched the game, only have themselves to blame. This is literally brought on by people’s own stupidity, but defend that stupidity, please, let everyone else know you defend stupidity.
But sure make a game that works for 3 hours, totally the same thing lmfao.
They didn't tell me shit. I bought the game. I got to that part. It let me skip it without anything saying that it would become a requirement at a later point. What about that is being told? This is literally the first time I've heard about this being a hard requirement. This also proves that it's not actually a hard requirement. They can choose to do it.
But defend big corporations for unenforceable EULAs. Let everyone else know you defend Big Sony.
Steams page listed it, if you played at launch you were required to link it, and the splash screen said it was mandatory.
I’m sorry you apparently can’t fucking read, this isn’t a hard thing to grasp or anything. If you want to pretend to willfully ignorant after saying you read at least one of them. That’s entirely on you lmfao.
I love how this is showing all the morons who can’t read for shit, of FOSS this and FOSS that, open source this, Linux that, but can’t read a steam page before buying… huh. People keep showing their hypocrisy all over this place.
Edit Holy fucking shit!!! you literally have a Comment complaining about how people don’t read your door. You really want to die on this fucking hill? What a shocker, another hypocrite….
That's the point. I didn't buy it at launch. I missed the whole debacle. Actually would have returned it instantly. If I wasn't allowed to skip the login.
Yes... 10 words is definitely the same as a long ass unenforceable EULA. You're quite special you know... In a bad way just so that's clear. I'm sure Sony loves you.
Edit: Oh by the way Mr Sony Shill... Have you actually read their EULA? The login to their network isn't a part of it. https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/
https://www.playstation.com/legal/op-eula/ nor https://store.steampowered.com/eula/553850_eula_0
Neither make it a requirement for mandatory steam linking. So you want to complain about people not being able to read... It's not even in there to read. Talk about hypocrite! Telling people to read content that doesn't even exist to read.
A whole EULA…? It was listed as a steam requirement on the store, and you said you read the splash screen.
You are being extremely disingenuous now. Which fallacy is next? I think this conversation is done since you clearly have zero interest in acknowledging that you read and ignored it, even though you said you read it.
Damn you couldn't even read my post... Nothing on the "splash screen" said that skipping the login was temporary. I read it perfectly fine. Nothing in the game itself made it clear that it was required. Nothing exists in the EULA (EVEN NOW) that says it's a requirement.
Read better next time please. And maybe stop shilling for mega-corps. They don't actually like or care for you.
Wow…
For your edit in the previous comment.
REQUIRES. What does it say…? Please tell the rest of the class.
From your first link, that’s been there since the game was listed on Steam. And why do you keep screaming about a EULA? You brought it up, and it isn’t even part of the argument why are you trying to move goalposts now? See I knew you would find another one.
I’m not even addressing this one since you’ve already proved multiple times you are incapable of comprehending what you’re reading. The splash screen said it was required, why are you claiming it’s not? Just because it was bypassable is moot.
Hi,
I don't have a PSN account. I was able to log in and play without using a PSN account. At no point was I told that a PSN account would be required to play. My very reasonable assumption. Is that the PSN account requirement was listed for crossplay, or managing socials with PS players. If the game had not worked from day one, or if I had been notified in the game that this was merely a temporary solution, and that I would be unable to play at all in the coming months, then I would have refunded without even trying.
So no, despite what the little label said, PSN account was not required to play the game. It worked fine without the PSN account.
In an ideal world, the requirement would be removed. Since the availability of the game has arbitrarily changed a lot in the last 2 days, Sony should at least offer full refunds and an apology to the community.
Hi
There was literally a splash screen you accepted when you loaded up the game the first time.
You have no excuse, bye.
I don't need to make an excuse. You're making excuses, even more pathetic, you're making excuses for a megacorp trying to datamine their customers by changing the conditions for use of the game that they already bought.
Toodles.
We just established this was required before launch, why are you lying?
Give your head a shake lmfao.
I played the game without a PSN account, along with most of the HD2 community, and I was happy with the content, which in no way relied on having a PSN account. I don't have one. I played the game. Therefore, it was not required, regardless of what the store blurb said. I got exactly one notice to link a PSN account, which I skipped, it was a skippable thing, meaning was not required. When I skipped the PSN account, it took me straight to the game. There was no notice that it would be required to link at a later date.
If no one has told you yet, you have an amazing tongue. Your capability to lick boots and kiss ass is unparalleled. Shame that Sony won't notice your efforts here either.
Nah brother. Because it's in the TOS doesn't make it OK, and in some cases, even legally enforceable.
Why are you sticking up for some arbitrary shitty corporate decision and feel the need to shift the blame to people who bought, and now supposedly OWN, the game?
I can respect it if you're doing it for money, we all gotta eat. But if it's for free, you're just an ass
You’re playing on Sonys servers, they need a way to enforce a ban when you are a dick. On steam if they ban your account, you make a new one, and family share the game bypassing the ban.
This is Sonys servers, it’s their rules, no different than needing a Steam account to play Steam games. This isn’t something out of the ordinary….
I’m not sticking up for or defending anything, people are just too fucking stupid to read requirements before buying things, and now you being just as stupid defending the stupid people doing this lmfao.
It’s Sonys servers, of course it requires an account….
So the only way to ban dicks is for them to have a PSN account? That ain't it my brother.
Sony servers, sure, just release a server binary, let others host it and offload all infrastructure costs! Massive savings!
Don't suck corporate ass man, cmon.
Wow… how do they ban all your other accounts unless steam vac bans you for a Sony ban? Don’t you think that would be an entire other issue…? Get your steam if banned, make a new account and family share it, bypassing Sonys ban with now way of the knowing…. Yeah that’s a fucking problem.
Uhhh… you understand the concept of this game… yeah…?
You couldn’t be making a bigger idiot of yourself right now.
You’d have to pay for the game again regardless of where you got banned, and can Sony not opt out of allowing family sharing?
What? Sony can only ban a steam id, how’s Sony supposed to know you’re family sharing to another account? And you don’t need to buy a new game to family share, that’s the entire issue.
You can bypass banning without linked accounts due to steams policies, maybe if steam would issue a vac ban for a sony ban, but people would be even more up in arms about that.
Back when the new family sharing rules came out, I remember reading something about how developers could opt out of family sharing. That’s what I was referencing.
Developers can opt out of family sharing. A family sharing account that gets banned, the owning account also gets banned.
You’re super correct
But “some issues” = refund window for a big chunk of the world that can’t make a PS account
I’d be interested to know if that’s Sony or steams mistake selling them in those markets. Or isn’t that developer controlled? So maybe the devs fucked up by not restricting the sales, they said they knew about Sonys requirements.
Absolutely fair! I was waiting on this game hoping they did better anticheat.
It sounds like a Sony thing, instead of the devs.