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[–] snownyte@kbin.social 15 points 6 months ago (6 children)

We see this everytime a new Windows comes around.

You'll have your hopeless Windows users who're equally as bad as Apple cultists. Screaming at you to upgrade because "THE SECURITY! THINK OF THE SECURITY! YOUR SYSTEM WILL FUCKING DIE IF YOU DON'T GET YOURSELF SECURED!1!1" when all you fucking do is just check e-mail, oh my god. /s

But the fight to resist upgrading has gotten longer and will get longer. Going by the Windows OS global stats of it's marketshare, 3% are still clinging to Win7. 23% hopped to Win11. 70% is still Windows 10.

By the time Windows 10 loses it's extended support (that isn't the Enterprise edition), we're going to see the changes then.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 23 points 6 months ago* (last edited 6 months ago)

YOUR SYSTEM WILL FUCKING DIE IF YOU DON'T GET YOURSELF SECURED!1!1" when all you fucking do is just check e-mail,

Yeah because not only is security for idiots, checking email is an inherently riskless process, immune to security issues.

[–] Windex007@lemmy.world 6 points 6 months ago

I don't think it's been the case that there has been a backslide, though. Win 11 marketshare peaked, then declined, and then 10 increased.

[–] johannesvanderwhales@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

I just turned off tpm and my laptop has mostly stopped nagging me about upgrading. I did get a notice that win10 support is ending soon.

[–] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 4 points 6 months ago

It's not just Windows. I have an iMac (I used to be a video editor and it's standard) and it's 7 years old, so still Intel, and I'm still running Big Sur, which is 3 versions behind, on it because why bother upgrading when I get no advantages out of it?

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I'd probably say a blasphemy, but ordinary workers only experience problems for their old HDDs\systems are overstuffed and are far from their prime, so they ask for entire new PC to start fresh. New Seven x64 on SSD is what most people would'be okay with*, since it's compatible with new Office document formats, doesn't need much resources or space, and can still do everything except for niche tasks. It's not as morbid as Vista\8, not yet filled with bloat like 10 or 11, not as limited today as XPx32 with older driver delivery model. I don't know much about security stuff, but I feel like older systems falling from popularity are not the usual targets of people who write them, and encountering one using an outdated OS would probably mean nothing since exploits they want to abuse aren't there yet.

* Linux would probably be better, but that's still a hard sell for businesses that don't use it intentionally.

[–] Evilcoleslaw@lemmy.world 5 points 6 months ago (1 children)

I don't know much about security stuff, but I feel like older systems falling from popularity are not the usual targets of people who write them, and encountering one using an outdated OS would probably mean nothing since exploits they want to abuse aren't there yet.

The issues that are going to be the problem eventually are vulnerabilities that affect both new and old versions of Windows. The new versions will get the patch, but 7 won't. And it still might be worth exploiting to hit the machines with the newer version that don't update quickly or at all.

[–] andrew_bidlaw@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago

Probably, if they aren't that obscure. I don't know if a distance is that long between Windows 11 and Seven, but I suppose it's that big for older systems.