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I swear there’s a group of people who want everything to be “federated” without really understanding what that means. It’s cryptobros 2.0. Let’s make a block-chain based dating app too!
Congrats you discovered a new technology - not everything needs to run on that technology.
Can we federate a block chain?
Need to sprinkle in some AI!
If you're actually interested:
Ethereum was originally supposed to scale by sharding - essentially splitting the chain into X shards that are independent but can talk to each other.
Better solutions have been come up with so it didn't end up happening, but it's the closes thing to a "federated" blockchain.
Your comment sounds like a Brandon Sanderson piece, with shards and all.
For a moment I was lost because there is no shard Ethereum.
Federation is not just a new technology, it's a new (imo better!) way to govern and distribute power in online services. Of course we should explore the possibility of creating federated alternatives for everything, we would be dumb not to. And it's fine if for some of the services the answer is no, that doesn't make the question bad!
The problem with Crypto imo is that many people don't actually want to improve things, especially the loud ones. They just want to make a profit and have no problem scamming others for it.
I'd argue federation is the old way, the original way the internet was built, and the centralized walled-garden ecosystems ran by FAANG is the new way. Email, usenet, even http and world wide web itself are examples of federation.
Yeah I think you're right, in fact federated systems have existed even before the internet. But it's new for the kinds of services we use today, like globally connected instant messengers and social networks.