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    [–] tubbadu@lemmy.kde.social 1 points 6 months ago (4 children)

    Is there some lore about this I don't know?

    [–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    There is no C++ allowed in the Linux kernel and Linus has gone on several major rants about how terrible a language it is.

    [–] VubDapple@lemmy.world 0 points 6 months ago (3 children)
    [–] BartyDeCanter@lemmy.sdf.org 1 points 6 months ago

    According to the github analysis, the kernel repository is:

    • C 98.3%
    • Assembly 0.7%
    • Shell 0.4%
    • Makefile 0.2%
    • Python 0.2%
    • Perl 0.1%
    • Other 0.1%

    So yeah, its basically all C, plus a tiny bit of assembly for very low level bootstrapping and some helper scripts.

    [–] ozymandias117@lemmy.world 1 points 6 months ago

    There’s assembly and makefiles too

    Less of a joke answer, there has been work to allow Rust bindings for drivers.

    [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Lots of core UNIX and Linux projects are. C++ is not liked by a lot of low level FOSS community. I think Rust is going to get further into these areas. I know C++ well but prefer C. I know plenty of others who feel the same.

    [–] doriancodes@infosec.pub 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    I've read that they are writing parts of the kernel in Rust

    [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Yes, I think Rust is a better C++ and will replace it in many places. Though all three will be around for ever to be honest.

    [–] 0x4E4F@sh.itjust.works 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Yes, first Rust code was released in 6.6 I think and MS also started implementing Rust code in the Windows kernel.

    [–] jabjoe@feddit.uk 1 points 6 months ago

    Rust is certainly interesting. I think it's the C++ we need.

    [–] Rossphorus@lemm.ee 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    Torvalds just really dislikes C++. He's gone on the record saying that he thinks it's just not a good language. In his own words "C++ is just a waste, there is no design at all, just adding some scum on top of C."

    [–] Vilian@lemmy.ca 1 points 6 months ago (1 children)
    [–] acockworkorange@mander.xyz 0 points 6 months ago (1 children)

    In the specific use case of kernel programming, maybe. But the Standard Template Library is awesome.

    [–] magic_lobster_party@kbin.run 0 points 6 months ago

    The STD is maybe the only good thing C++ has over C, and even that is awful compared to other language’s standard libraries.

    I can’t name another good thing C++ has. Maybe templates. C++’s reliance on inheritance for polymorphism is awful (should’ve gone with interfaces/traits).

    Not to mention the mess with all the different types of constructors that must always be implemented.

    It’s just a bunch of bad design choices added on top of an old outdated language.

    [–] jalkasieni@sopuli.xyz 1 points 6 months ago

    ”C++ is a horrible language. It's made more horrible by the fact that a lot of substandard programmers use it, to the point where it's much much easier to generate total and utter crap with it. Quite frankly, even if the choice of C were to do nothing but keep the C++ programmers out, that in itself would be a huge reason to use C.”

    http://harmful.cat-v.org/software/c++/linus

    [–] Titou@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 months ago

    Linus is a C advocate btw, which make him even more goated