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[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 16 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

Man, nintendo just needs to stop. Ugh. "Heres our NEW underperforming console! Get ready to play severely inferior ports of popular 3rd party games, everyone! We've ensured that only nintendo games will run well on our new console and nothing else because we dont actually want these vastly superior games from 3rd parties to outclass our nintendo developed games!". Why is it so hard for them to actually release something that's is on equal grounds with everything else? They spending all their coin on their precious DMCAs' or something? Also, fuck nintendo. Fuck them, fuck their inferior hardware and fuck their severe hatred of the fans. Seriously, I'm noticing a trend here. Either you are forced to play their games, which really aren't THAT great and mostly weird, or you're forced to play other 3rd party games, select ones at that, with severely inferior standards and performance. It's like they're trying to discourage any quality games out there from playing on their hardware on purpose because it's nintendo games or the highway, and that fits their aggressively anticonsumer mindset too. Another great indicator of this is why they refuse to let their characters appear in Fortnite. The kinda funny podcast did a piece on this. Here's a shocker: they literally said they don't want their characters in the game because it wasn't on their hardware exclusively. How childish is that? They are literally the only ones who won't do it. Microsoft and Sony were OK with having Kratos, Master Chief, Aloy, etc, DC was cool with sharing their IPs, Marvel was cool with it, MHA, DragonBall, Kaizen, AOT were cool with it, Fox was cool with sharing Family guy, Konami was cool with sharing Snake, Capcom was cool with sharing SF, hell, WE EVEN GOT JACK SKELLINGTON IN IT, but NOPE, Nintendo can't play nice. Shocking.

Guess what, Nintendo? Due to your outrageous behavior with emulation and lawsuits, along with your stupid takedowns (GMOD NINTENDO? FUCKING GMOD?), or how you ruined a mans life all because he chipped your garbage hardware, including how much you hate your fans who only wanted to celebrate you, I wont be giving you another fucking dime. I was never really much of a pirate, but when it comes to you? I am now. Get FUCKED you anticonsumerist dirtbags.

[–] caseyweederman@lemmy.ca 21 points 7 months ago (2 children)

If a Nintendo console was comparable to other consoles in the same generation, would the games be more fun?
If not, then what's the point? Many SNES games are more fun than the vast majority of technically superior games out this year.
"They should make the graphics better so... that... the graphics would be better" isn't a super compelling argument.
My question is "what's going to make me stop playing my games on the Switch and play them on this instead".
My concern is that this is going to end up causing library fragmentation like the WiiU and the New 3DS. The Game Boy Color added color to its predecessor, the New 3DS added... slightly faster polygon calculations? I don't even know. Some games required the better processor but I couldn't tell you what they did with it. Maybe they just got away with worse optimization.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Idk, I'm not saying I care about graphics specifically, just that equal hardware would allow more 3rd party games to utilize it. The thing that is stopping people from enjoying those games on other consoles is money. People don't want to buy multiple systems. All I'm saying is I think nintendo should make decent hardware so that users can play the 3rd party games they want on their Nintendo system instead of buying at minimum another console.

[–] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago

Buying games on other platforms is so much cheaper that there's already no reason to buy them on Switch. Games that are $4 on Steam and included with Gamepass/PS+ are $35 on Switch.

Nintendo systems are for Nintendo games.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Equal hardware wouldn't be portable though.

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Ehhh, they could take a few things from the steam deck. If nintendo really wanted to, they could definitely make a portable system with equal hardware.

[–] lud@lemm.ee 0 points 7 months ago

Equal to the PS5? No. Equal to the Steam deck? Yeah I guess.

[–] Zangoose@lemmy.one 6 points 7 months ago

I agree with this mostly, but at the same time more powerful hardware lets the devs experiment with more advanced mechanics. For example, ToTK runs pretty hard into switch limitations with its impressive physics. If Nintendo wanted to take that engine even further, they'd likely need a hardware upgrade.

Additionally, more powerful hardware starts putting more demanding mechanics into the realm of possibility for an indie dev team that has neither the time nor the resources to optimize their games at the same level as a big studio.

[–] suction@lemmy.world 6 points 7 months ago (1 children)
[–] curiousaur@reddthat.com 3 points 7 months ago

The switch is the 3rd best selling console ever. They are clearly doing something right. You're comparing a portable handheld to PCs and plug-in consoles.

I'm pleased that's it's underpowered because it ensures their games perform well on emulators.

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

If you're buying a Nintendo console for 3rd party games you're going about it all wrong tbh

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, that's true. I just think it's bullshit how anti consumer they are. Sure, you're right, but also like really, Nintendo?

[–] bitwolf@lemmy.one 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I agree completely, especially under the video game preservation viewpoint.

I lost a few DSi games when the store shut down so I only bought switch cartridges. However I haven't touched it since I got a Steam Deck because I know those games will last

[–] p5yk0t1km1r4ge@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago

Yeah, I just think it's just really childish on their part. That entire company is ridiculous, and I'm glad more and more people are starting to realize it each day.