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Just thinking of ditching nextcloud and its just too much for my family use. All i needis carddav, caldav and file sync. Have a Debian VM running on Scale and was thinking of using Cloudron docker install. Is this the way others are installing on VMs?

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[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 29 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago) (4 children)

I switched to Radicale and couldn't be happier, so lightweight no pain setting it up or updating. Supports CardDav for the addressbook and CalDav for calendar, tasks, notes.

Nextcloud is for Enterprises, not for selfhosting anymore.

[–] halm@leminal.space 7 points 7 months ago

Completely agree about Nextcloud. The project rose to fame on selfhosters beta testing it, then buddied up to enterprise users and ditched the initial user base.

[–] timbuck2themoon@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago (2 children)

Disagree. I've self hosted nextcloud for years without issue.

Just go with what you need. Some only need contacts and calendars, others want the whole thing.

[–] GunnarGrop@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I think that's kind of what they meant. I've also selfhosted Nextcloud for years, but I only use file sync and calendar/contacts.

Lately I've been feeling that Nextcloud is too big and clunky for just that. Like it's something I'd love to setup at work or for an org, but that it "feels" to heavy for home use these days.

I need to check out Radicale, I think.

[–] geography082@lemm.ee 4 points 7 months ago

Same with me. Nextcloud is the typical it does everything but doesn’t excel in anything

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I also selfhosted it for years myself. But I was adding more and more services to my server and it became clear that if I would want to keep Nextcloud I'd need a server with more CPU and RAM because when Nextcloud was running it would after half a day deadlock the server with a load of 120 so I had to hard reboot it twice a day.

After replacing it with radicale and syncthing I was able to run Mastodon and Lemmy on the same server additionally.

[–] peregus@lemmy.world 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

120? That doesn't seem normal, what services were you using within NC? Mine sits still with a load of 0. something.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 0 points 7 months ago

Calendar, and addressbook actively. File sharing only seldom.

[–] Neon@lemmy.world 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I tried to use Radicale, but it was too much effort, so i started using Baikal instead.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 1 points 6 months ago

Haha, interesting, for me it was the exact opposite, I started with Baikal but it was too weird and I couldn't get it up and running quickly enough and then I think I was not able to share my calendar with my partner or something, so I switched to Radicale.

[–] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (2 children)

What do you do for file syncing, if you don't mind me asking

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 4 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Syncthing and I have it partitioned with:

  • Music
  • Documents
  • Family Documents
  • Password DB

So that I can decide what to sync to which device.Music is for example too big to sync to my Phone so I don't. Family documents I also share with my partner. Password DB I sync with all my devices but not to anyone else.

[–] jvh@feddit.uk 2 points 7 months ago (2 children)

I use syncthing between my desktop and laptop for syncing all my documents, development environments and so on. Works well.

But how well does it work for sharing with someone else? E.g. it would be great to find a solution where myself and my partner could share notes and shopping lists which we can both edit. We use Google keep currently but I'm currently testing out solutions to de-google our lives. Nextcloud seemed like a good idea as it has docs and things but I've not found it very good to be honest. Especially syncing on a mobile. I've been using obsidian recently for my notes and it works well between laptop and desktop with the nextcloud app but I have to keep going into nextcloud on android to force it to sync or pick up new files. I'm just about to see how syncthing works for that but back to my original question..can you reliably have two people editing things with syncthing?

[–] trilobite@lemmy.ml 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

Joplin may ne good for you with notes

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 2 points 7 months ago (1 children)

I went from NC --> Joplin --> Logseq

(With syncthing)

[–] trilobite@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 months ago (1 children)

What Made you make the move from Joplin to Logseq (which I didn't even know of?)

[–] Cyber@feddit.uk 1 points 7 months ago

Originally the ability to find specific files by name - Joplin was storing with filenames in(I forget exactly) date or serial number...

But, more importantly it was the dynamic bi-directional links that you can just type and creates a new page, and that page shows all the references pointing to it.

I use this for work, so each day's journal has meetings with subjects... go to that subject's page and there are all the meetings I had.

[–] jeena@jemmy.jeena.net 0 points 7 months ago

In the end it's just another devise. But we are not changing the same document at the same time, that would lead to many sync conflicts I imagine. For that some special protocol for concurent Editing would be better.

[–] Lem453@lemmy.ca 3 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

Seafile has been great for me.

400gb, multiple users. Single sign in with Authentik.

Just recently setup only office integration